QUOTE (Nadia @ Dec 13 2005, 10:30 AM)
And the founder of ISKCON came from a broken marriage, hey its all lila, its not meant to be read that way.
I've never heard about this (not that I would expect something like that to be highlighted...). Maybe it's in the Lilamrta, which I have never read from cover to cover.
You do raise a good point. Whatever a great man does... you know the rest. Now, with Krishna I could make an exception. Many of His behaviors that would normally be considered immoral have been explained in ways to show that they were actually not (mind you, I have never really bothered to check up on those). The biggest example, of course, is when the gopis got married. This was during the Brahma Vimohana Lila, when Krishna had expanded Himself into the boys and cows. In other words, the gopis were in a sense all Krishna's wives to begin with. If anyone knows this to be correct or incorrect, please let us know.
Still, most ordinary people do not know about these details and may still wonder why He can and they can't do all the fun stuff.
What it ultimately boils down to is the "Do as I say, not as I do" syndrome. Who wants to be told to do things by people who never do or did those things themselves? And in the vaishnava tradition, isn't that the purport of acarya
? To set the example?
I'm going out on a limb here with some hard observations and the risk of possibly being chewed up together with Nadia.
To my knowledge, ACBS was mostly home schooled and never went to gurukula himself (strange, considering that his father was a "pure devotee"). Nor did he himself ever sent his own children to gurukula. Of course, with gurukula I mean the same type of gurukula he later tried to institute in ISKCON, where children are separated from their parents. Later, ACBS went on to a Christian
college. Yet he expected his disciples and future generations to send their children thousands of miles away at very young ages and have their parents go out to collect money. The results are well known.
ACBS also lived a regular householder life, engaged in business, and had multiple children, none of whom grew up to be pure vaishnavas. Yet from his writings, letters and conversations it is clear that he expected much more from his own disciples. During his householder life, did he give 50% of his income to the temple?
Actually, ACBS never lived in a temple as a brahmacari or householder, under the rule of a temple president and under full control of his own guru, who would make decisions about every aspect of his life -- including whom to marry. Throughout his writings, however, he stresses the importance of scrutinizing and accepting a guru, taking initiation, and fully surrendering to that guru. He applied these expectations to his followers and future generations, yet it took him a full 11 years after meeting his own guru before he took initiation, and with very little association in-between.
ACBS expected his followers to adhere to truthfulness, high morality and rightiousness, yet he knowingly allowed some disciples to continue an illegal drug business to bring in money for the KB Mandir. Likewise, other questionable activities taking place in his centers were known to him, including the horrible way women and children were treated. And I still have many questions about the way ACBS put his books together without crediting the sources he copied from, including his own guru.
So do we do what he said or what he did?