Well if there is already a topic like this already, then the moderator can kindly merge this I guess and I will come to know what I previously had not before I created this topic.

Alright then, well you all may remember our good old friends in Shelter right? Ray Cappo and crew, etc. Well I just saw this video on Youtube and it seems kinda new. It is Ray and Porcell and a drum machine and the song is heavy has hell and catchy too. It is not your typical hardcore. It is just really heavy rock with some definite punk elements.

I am guessing that Porcell is playing both guitar and bass and he does a damn good job at that. Ray doesn't play anything I think aside from singing. Even the drum machine is laying down a thick and kick ass beat!

Wow, and so here is another one...

to tell you the truth it sounds almost like a cross between butt rock band, White Lion, heavy metal's Megadeth, and alternative rockers the Cure. its just my weird analysis I guess but I bet they are indeed throwing a lot of influences and styles together.

Here is probably one of the first songs in rock history to feature the mahmantra in the mainstram music scene. Or was it the first? Did anyone do it before Boy George?

This band, while being a band of devotees, seem to have had some musical influences like Slayer. I doubt they'd admit it though.

George Harrison perhaps?

In 1969, the Beatles, perhaps the most popular music group of all time, produced a hit single, "The Hare Krishna Mantra", performed by George Harrison and the devotees of the Radha-Krishna Temple, London. The song soon topped the 10 best-selling record charts throughout UK, Europe, and Asia. Soon after the BBC featured the 'Hare Krishna Chanters', four times on the popular television program Top of the Pops. And the Hare Krishna chant became a household word, especially in parts of Europe and Asia.

Well ya, anyone who was even a little Hare Krishna knows about the Radha Krishna Temple album. I have it and listened to it to its death on audio tape. But technically, that isn't a rock album is what I meant. It was more or less a kirtan or bhajan album. It happened to go mainstream I guess but it wasn't rock in any way was it?

Also, George wasn't heard singing the mantra in full. He just merged the mantra as part of the song. "My sweet Lord, Hare Krishna, Hallelujah." And he didn't chant it all the way through, or even partially. He just kept saying My Sweet Lord and the backup singers handled the piece by piece mantra.

There was probably the famous 'Dum Maro Dum' song from the 1971 Bollywood movie Hare Rama Hare Krishna:


The film and especially this song were wildly controversial at the time (think: Blasphemy!), especially because of the depicted connections between chanting Hare Krishna and taking drugs. The film itself was a take on the hippie revolution going on at the time. The refrain Dum maro dum, mit jaaye gham, bolo subah shaam, hare krishna hare rama', basically means: Smoke a joint, let your pain melt away, chant all day and night Hare Krishna Hare Rama. I used to hear stories of early Iskconites being given a hard time by the Vrajavasis over the assumption that they, too, were examples of hippie Westerners who were really only interested in the 'highs' of KC, and were teased with this song by the village boys. I believe such stories like this were recorded in Hayagriva das' Vrindavan Days or something like that.

By the way, the concept of the song has recently been "relaunched": a couple of months ago the movie Dum Maaro Dum was released with the item-song entitled Mit Jaaye Gham. It, too, mentions 'Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Hare Rama':

Now, what did you do, Dum maro dum get stuck in a loop in my mind, how do I turn it off?

Haha yes! How did I forget about Bhool Bhulaiya? Also a recent movie.

Okay, well just go smoke a joint and listen to some Grateful Dead or Cypress Hill. The new loops should replace your old loop.

Or better yet, vaporize.

Hehehehe, you know, the original (1971) Dum Maro Dum underwent a excellent remix at the hands of Magic Mike (the Indian guy, not the Miami bassist) back in the late 90s. I haven't been able to find it online at Youtube or anywhere else, yet I have the thing on audio tape. As soon as I find it and get around to an mp3 conversion, then we'll see how many of us get stuck in the loop!

The essential sounds of being in the middle of a rip roaring kirtan are all there, funny how that works.

After watching this I had to go look at Boy George's wiki page. It was enough to make you believe chanting "nitai gaur radhe syam hare krsna hare ram" is the sahajiya death you always heard of! Or maybe some of that big 'preaching' thing is the same nothing, that I always suspected.

I defended Boy George when he first came out in the early 1980s. But I always spoke out against his later involvement with our movement. It was obvious the poor guy was channeling some really toxic ISKCON energy.

I am happy to see that Wendy is looking much healthier now. I didn't think she was going to make it through the 80's. The King's Cross scene is a tough scene. I liked some of her early music.

Who is Wendy?

Wendy Saddington

She was a minor success during the early 70's hippy scene in Australia. I used to see her quite often in Sydney. She looks sooo much better now.

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