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amberline
Dear all,
I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good on-line translation of BG slokas, or forward me one in .pdf or .doc(x) files?
I know there must be even better ones in print, but it's not easy to get one where I live, and I'm rather broke anyway so could probably not afford it at the moment whistling.gif

Any help and/or suggestions welcome!

Thanks a billion worship.gif
metamorphosis
I could send a new out of the box Original BG from pre-77 if you would like.
Ananda
Gita Supersite - A very useful Bhagavad Gita site with several translations and commentaries, both translations and originals, in an easy-to-browse format.
amberline
QUOTE (metamorphosis @ Aug 4 2010, 12:25 PM) *
I could send a new out of the box Original BG from pre-77 if you would like.

If you mean Prabhupada's, I wouldn't be interested, but thanks for the offer. I didn't know they still exist!
I am actually interested just in sloka translations, I've had enough "purports" to last me (half) a lifetime. (I was a BBT translator for a while.)


Gerard and Ananda, thank you so much! Would you recommend any particular one?
I tried to google for BG translations, but figured I didn't really know how to determine which ones were ok, and which just a propaganda.
ras
I'm wondering if anyone has ever noticed this. In the last few verses of the 11th chapter, there are two versions of which form Krishna is referring to.

First, from the Sivananda edition that Gerard linked....

QUOTE
52. The Blessed Lord said: Very hard indeed it is to see this form of Mine which thou hast seen. Even the gods are ever longing to behold it.
53. Neither by the Vedas, nor by austerity, nor by gift, nor by sacrifice, can I be seen in this form as thou hast seen Me (so easily).
54. But by single-minded devotion can I, of this form, be known and seen in reality and also entered into, O Arjuna!

Then, from vedabase.net (ACBS)...

QUOTE
52: The Supreme Personality of Godhead said: My dear Arjuna, this form of Mine you are now seeing is very difficult to behold. Even the demigods are ever seeking the opportunity to see this form, which is so dear.
53: The form you are seeing with your transcendental eyes cannot be understood simply by studying the Vedas, nor by undergoing serious penances, nor by charity, nor by worship. It is not by these means that one can see Me as I am.
54: My dear Arjuna, only by undivided devotional service can I be understood as I am, standing before you, and can thus be seen directly. Only in this way can you enter into the mysteries of My understanding.

In verse 52 and 53 we get "in this form as thou hast seen Me" - Sivananda. In ACBS - "the form you are seeing". Yet even in the sanskrit word-for-word in ACBS we find "idam rupam drstavan asi" translated as "this form as you have seen". If you look up in the Sanskrit Dictionary the use of the word "drstavan" is all in the past tense, "I saw it the day before yesterday". In 54 Sivananda translates "of this form", but that is in the same context with Krishna referring to the universal form.

I checked this out in two other editions, one by Graham Schweig and another by P. Yogananda. They both seem to favor towards Sivananda's. It also seems to make the conversation flow better, lending itself to the 12 chapter.

Of course I know the Vraja-vasis will have none of this. spank.gif
babu
QUOTE (Gerard @ Aug 4 2010, 07:31 AM) *


Edwin Arnold is God.
Gerard
QUOTE (ras @ Aug 5 2010, 02:46 PM) *
I'm wondering if anyone has ever noticed this. In the last few verses of the 11th chapter, there are two versions of which form Krishna is referring to.

As Krishna has just switched back to his 2-armed form, it would seem that "which thou hast seen" is the proper translation; dristavan is the perfect participle of the root drish which indicates a completed action.

Gerard
QUOTE (amberline @ Aug 5 2010, 06:41 AM) *
QUOTE (metamorphosis @ Aug 4 2010, 12:25 PM) *
I could send a new out of the box Original BG from pre-77 if you would like.

If you mean Prabhupada's, I wouldn't be interested, but thanks for the offer. I didn't know they still exist!
I am actually interested just in sloka translations, I've had enough "purports" to last me (half) a lifetime. (I was a BBT translator for a while.)


Gerard and Ananda, thank you so much! Would you recommend any particular one?
I tried to google for BG translations, but figured I didn't really know how to determine which ones were ok, and which just a propaganda.

Of the e-versions available to me, I like this one (although slightly over-interpretative, some would say, with a built-in commentary): Click to view attachment or (a little bit more advaitic) this one of Shivananda: Click to view attachment


But a second-hand paperback of the Franklin Edgerton translation can't be too expensive. That is quite a literal translation.
amberline
QUOTE (Gerard @ Aug 5 2010, 05:08 PM) *
Of the e-versions available to me, I like this one (although slightly over-interpretative, some would say, with a built-in commentary): Click to view attachment or (a little bit more advaitic) this one of Shivananda: Click to view attachment

But a second-hand paperback of the Franklin Edgerton translation can't be too expensive. That is quite a literal translation.

I guess this last would be something I'm actually looking for... I really want to switch from the Swamis and Maharajas to just "plain" English translators (if a Harvard professor can be called plain wink.gif ), although, sure, it can lack in (spiritual) understanding, but that's not what I need, anyway. I just want a very down to basics, yes, even literal, "no nonsense" text.

Thanks everyone for all the effort, it's been really helpful.
RiffRaff
I've been reading this version lately

Nikhilananda

I've tried to find a pdf of it, to no avail

Here's some good download links
I've come across lately
( I love download links)

hindudharma

various

cincinnatitemple

Lots of Gita's on the last one

Here's a good link to the scriptures
of previous Vaisnavas

essence-of-devotio
Brainiac
There are some good ones at Sacred Texts: Gitas.
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