Thought I would post this on Kalki which I find very interesting;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalki


The thing which I suspect in all this is Kalki is closer to what the Sikhs interpret as, as an aspect of the 'ends of time' even within ourselves wherein our bad qualities are cathartically destroyed, bringing out our inner righteousness. Its what Ive always suspected about the book of Revelations too, four beasts of an apocalpyse of our inner selves, with a 666 pitted against a 888 (Jesus Christ in Greek gematria also how Greek alphabet is divided into three rows of 8- Alpha-Omega Logos) and the other figures like the 24 elders (Vishnu incanations?) not to mention also the endings of time measured, which in a sense the apocalypse and the Kalki story is happening at each moment, at end of each time strand, each atom, or time sequence as an integral part of an ongoing process. The Sikh interpretation made me think in this way and confirmed what I already suspected. I find this pleasurable. I find it interesting too how Kalki seems to be an intereligious figure spanning Buddhism, Islam, Agni worship, Vishnu worship and others. I strongly suspect some connections to that upon which the Book of Revelation came also, that crossed over into the circles under the name Johannite. It would be interesting to explore this in more depth from a non sectarian angle. Also notice the number 8 also, which is the number of Krishna also and Christ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:475px-Kalki1790s.jpg

Why does Kalki wield a baseball bat on his shoulder ?
This is a different conception indeed....

Do we have to assume now that everyone today who wields a baseball bat is working in the service of Kalki ?

I guess Kalki being the Lord of lila or games, or sporting pastimes has time to get into a little baseball from time to time?

From what I know, we verily could have the Kalki avatara posting right here on g.r. as many are aware. The poster has as well piqued our interest that such may be the case.

Intriguing comment, Babu.

This is a quote from the Wikipedia article :
"In Hinduism, Kalki (Devanagari: कल्कि; also rendered by some as Kalkin and Kalaki) is the tenth and final Maha Avatar (great incarnation) of Vishnu who will come to end the present age of darkness and destruction known as Kali Yuga."

According to Rudolf Steiner (if I am not mistaken) the Kali Yuga however ended in 1899.

I can't take the present person Kalki here on GR any more. It is written "annihilator of miscreants" but he is not the God Kalki, but just some hashish smoking human who thinks he is god, and so to him all who challenge him are miscreants and so he tries and tries to "annihilate" them, but all that happens is a bunch of hot air in posts condemning others. But when someone points the finger at him, oh, then it is such a big offense

Sorry you take me that way Nrsimhadasi. I don't see much basis for what you say. If you wanted to edify me, then you are more than welcome. Otherwise if you don't want to, hen verily I would consider your statement to be a bunch of hot air.

I can stand behind any of my posts as a reaction to another member who has blasted a lot of hot air. You would have to go to the origin of a dispute to find that out. The difference between myself and other members who have long since left the forum is that I stand my ground. The reason I do this is because an old mod, who is still probably around the forum accused me of condeming homosexuals when I wasn't at all and then later accused me of being anti-semitic. If you want to side with that person, then it is your choice, but all my arguments have been refuting that person's denial of his elitist approach to dealing with a new member like myself. Then of late, a current admin took pleasure in taking a superior stance of herself over what she considers dumb americans, which I took offense to and argued. But just before that, I objected to her authoritarian stance on GR Guidelines. I consider the authoritarian a opinion of a few select elitist members to be the cause of a lot of problems on GR and i am waiting for it to be recognized.

Why this issue keeps getting stirred once it has subsided is that members like you stir it up by having no previous dealing with me and then suddenly blast me without any personal reasoning other than you want to. This kind of condemnation and back biting is pretty similar to the prejudice the world has against groups like the ethnic jews. So as far as I can see, your actions are similar to fairly prejudice persons which GR is supposed to be trying to discourage.

As far as not being able to take criticism, I can take as much as you dish out, but if I have an answer and you don't like it and can't come up with any logic for your reasoning, then I guess you are the one that should be watched out for, because then your next move will be to make a post like the one that you have just made.

Sorry, but I spent too many years being controlled by authoritarian behaviors and I am not ready to listen to the nonsense of folks who want to repeat the mistakes taught in the lessons such as Animal Farm. Ironically, for instance those people can apply the lessons of Animal Farm against Iskcon but can't apply them to themselves.

So in support of this thread, the idea that Kalki and his destruction of enemies is an inner symbolism, is one that I agree with. If you take my avatar an the message as a threat against yourself or others in the forum, then it seems you aren't able to appreciate or apply the point that Jan was trying to make. I guess it might help in the future if you stay on the thread topic rather than digressing to make an attack of another member. Or if not, just make your application to join the totalitarian regime that backs GR. Or maybe you are already a member and that is why you are making this post.

The actual lesson in this sermon is to apply the advice to yourself. To apply it to others is exactly the reason that the sermon was developed, so to advise those who do so.

For instance, you must firstly be a person who has no log in your own eye, but you now verily want to pluck out the log in my eye. It is so ironic of you to do this that I almost feel like so bored to answer you.

Your logic mystifies me. Maybe you can start a whole thread of wise sayings that you don't follow and ask others to follow them. It is a bit like playing God if you do that, so again ironic if you feel that i might be doing that.

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Ha! When we see this does that mean we have a bigger log in our own eye due to judging the fault-finder? I don't know. People are just what they are - take it or leave it. I don't believe we have many more options. I even judge myself. Am I guilty of the god complex by doing so?

Good point.

Nrismhadasi, You go girl, speak truth to power and the forum bully, and don't be intimidated by another male member coming to his defense. Women have been treated in ill ways before on this forum, just ask Tapati, and one has to look no further than how Kalki treats Prisni currently, it is no wonder that few women take part here on this forum! I support you 100%, but now expect to be on the accusatory hit list from here on out, just as I most likely will be too. This is not the forum it used to be, no way, it has grown hostile to the opposite sex, but most noteworthy, as you have expressed, it has been hijacked by a troll and his one or two supporters at the expense of all good natured intelligent souls out there who hardly or no longer participate.

It seems to me that the board has declined much earlier than I ever entered. My initial problem here was when Kali the mod reprimanded me for unknowingly linking to a Christian site. This was hardly my fault. I was later reprimanded because I was suspected to be an antisemite. Please learn the facts.

My problem with Prisni was her trying to establish authoritarian control by trying to forbid members from talking back to mods. These are my only reasons for opposing the said people on the forum. I have done so by contructive criticism and construction.

That you mention that it has anything to do with gender is ridiculous. It is your own need to see problems where they don't exist. My only concern is the authoritarian nature of mods and admin on this board. They have all repeatedly avoided this disucssion and defended themselves with more authoritarian rhetoric. Every now and then members you you and Nrshima dasi pop up out of nowhere to support others on the board. I can see this as nothing more than trolling because you have not put any time into any discussion here as far as I have been here getting slandered with no reason.

As far as Homer is concerned. I am not allied with him nor is he with me. He simply seems to have understood properly that a member was calling out a fault finder who is a fault finder themselves. Oh, by the way, doesn't that verse from the Bible qualify as belonging to a literature which condemns homosexuals? Where is Kali to slam them when we need him just like he slammed me? It is quite hypocritical in fact.

It looks like you and some others want to spend you time on the board finding fault and starting wars. Personally, I have no wish. I only respond in opposition to nonsense I see on the board and none more.

I don't know you but thanks for your completely partial and biased introduction. I checked your previous posts and it my reading is correct, then you are Kali's wife? So it seems like you have jumped on in defense of others and condemned me as he did three years ago and then again more recently in quite a despicable way.

So how does a person lash out at another who they don't know just because they are ganged on one side through there personal relations? It would mean you don't have much interest in equanimity which ultimately doesn't not increase the happiness in your life but turns your insides rotten.

I humbly request you to see things with a clear mind and don't be influenced by false alliances. Being faithful to your husband does not have to turn into lashing out at others that you don't know. Ask Kali if I am right at all and the we will see how corrupt minded he is.

The amazing thing here is that you absolutely do not know me, and also does not appear to have the ability to learn me from what I write. To cover up for that loss, you invent and imagine things about me.

I learned that whole thing in ISKCON, when I heard the outrageous rumours that was going on about me. Amazing things. So I decided to start rumours of my own, not true things, but at least I had some control over the rumours. Then when I heard the things through the rumour mill, I could have the laugh.
I also learned it is pointless to deny untrue rumours, that just makes them stronger.
So I certainly I don't deny the rumours you make up about me.

It has very much to do with gender. If a guy is an authority like a guru, or sannyasa, or just "learned", everyone says "oh, he is so nice, he knows so much". But if someone with another gender knows and says something, then the only thing you get is - quiet down, stop speaking, you don't know anything, why do you say that.

It is definitively a gender thing, you are only not aware of it.

You are just trying to assert with your male ruling tactic, male logic and way of thinking, and darn what it must be frustrating when you don't have ultimate authority of this board.

And of course, you will argue back on this, since as a male, you are the authority....
..... in your mind.

Prisni, in the spirit of getting to know you, if you are by this statement inviting me, I am interested in getting to know you. If you are the same, and wanting to get to know me, then I am also interested. This is my direct invitation to you getting to know me and my request to know you. So I hope that is clear without any confusion. If you think this statement is contradicted by any other statement I make in other places, then I invite you to bring it forward to me to perhaps peruse or revise. This is my further offer to you or anyone to show me my misunderstanding or apparent contradiction so that i may be made to stand corrected. I back this 100% and here is the public record for it. You can use this statement against me in the court of GR provided that you use this offer in full without chopping it up or changing even one word. (but I am not spell checking or revising it so I do hope every word was correct or coherent so I don't cause you to fault my promise as being grammatically incorrect or incoherent. If it so, please point it out and i will edit it into something more clear.)

That being said and responding to other things you have written above, I don't believe I have invented things in the above. What I have said you may not agree with and that is fine. But I have objected the minute you made a statement where you tried to say that members should not talk negatively about Tapati and also that members should take note of the rule that we should not talk back to mods and you called it all common sense. If it doesn't ring a bell, then either you completely ignore this from your memory, or you think I got something wrong about your intention and you are not interested to correct it at all. I don't post the exact text here because I already did that and you never responded. From then on I only made reference to that incident, hoping you would finally address the point. If you think I am so off base that you don't know where to start, then I will post the text in a new thread confessing my gripes so not as to disturb any other thread. I hope that is fair enough and I will do it soon enough. I guess I like to log in and not find a new gripe created by a new or old member everyday before I can feel the time and space to address some pertinent issues.

My reason and motivation to bring these things forward to you is because I was offended originally that you ignored my concern and instead brought up a pretty lousy remark comparing me to a dumb american. It had little basis and was not productive nor did it address my concern. So if this is also a fabrication of my mind then I will also post it in the new thread solely for the purpose of active resolution of disagreements. I hope no one tries to discourage me from that thread because I think it will make things more clear and I don't like the whole method that another member did with me of dragging things out in PMs and then cutting it all off and again posting foul things about me in the public forum so that all the PMs are out of the public view. So lets keep things the way that it should be...in public so all can see and help me to understand what you already know, or vice versa if it comes out that way.

Fair enough I hope. I am sorry if you had negative experiences in Iskcon where someone talked bad about you. I never had that happen personally. If someone didn't like something about me, which initally was having long hair, then they said it to my face and I knew who liked me and didn't. Rumors are never pleasant and I personally never wish to start them about you or another member. So if you feel that my comments about you are off base, then I will go through the thread and bring it up more clearer for you to edify me and correct me. If you can do that, I will become a better person and better member. I will thank you for guiding me in my forum experience.

What can I say Prisni, except that i disagree with you strongly. My objection to your statement about mods not deserving any back talk from members, and that I am similar to a dumb american, and any other thing like my use of my own language is incorrect and irrelevant since communication is a broad field an words can be used by the user with demand that they are understood regardless of the native uses of the words are all objections I had to you which had nothing to do with gender at all.



Sounds like complete poppycock. What can I say to you if you say this. Shall I also return the remark and say you are not aware? Then you will say, "no you..." and I will say "no you..." It will go on forever. You had returned my statements without much answer before saying that you could say the same to me. So it sounds like the only answer I should give back to you to follow your trend. But frankly, I would like to offer you a better response. If you wish to illustrate which of my remarks have to do with gender bias then it would be a welcome help to me so that i can remove it from my system. If your only goal in bringing this point up is to fight, then I don't consider it productive. If you are still suffering from gender war syndrome even when it doesn't exist then I would have to say that this sort of thing is harmful to yourself and others around.

Perhaps you would like to illustrate by some example how not to start gender imbalance conversations? Could you start a thread for it so that myself and any men can learn? Should I start one for you? But then you will say that was also some male pushiness I suppose. I think I will start one and then wait for you to post content. I will also do my bit to post some content which strikes at balancing gender rather than trying to attack either side.


Again, please like any discussion so that it does not degrade into some type of useless finger pointing, cite some examples so that I can see your wisdom. I will argue back but it has nothing to do with being male. It isn't frustrating having no control over the board. Did you notice when the offer came up that i did not write to all the mods that I want supreme control? Can you give me any credit for that at all? But who did come forward quicker were you and Brainiac. So does it mean that you both are power freaks? By your logic here, it would mean so. I just take it that you were favored by the previous crew and that is how it happened. I also expressed willingness to help out to Kali but he nixed me by that I don't have enough time, though it doesn't seem to be that i am here less than other mods these days. In any case, I am happy to voice my opinion but not happy when others try to crush my opinion. I just want to see that GR can become a place where everyone is respected and not trashed by control of a few. Why would you object to that wish and not automatically resonate with that wish? This is what I want and would vote for. So you can have control it is okay with me but if I see something i don't like , I will speak out. Sorry if that is hard for you. It goes with the territory of your responsibility. I am not knocking you for just anything but for general principles of equanimity that I see are being desecrated. Sure that is my own opinion, and that is what the forum is for...endless discussion until truth is found or peace or something.

It seems that your conception about authority is different than mine. You mentioned previously not being clear and I tried to address those things and I found that you did not like my responses and tried to pick a fight with me. I thought it was going to all end, but here it goes again. I will try my best to answer you with an even mind and not perpetuate but I won't stop responding if I see that you are trying to pick on me. That much I can promise.