http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPTO6cTkpGI...feature=related

complete with purport. its a nice vid cept shes a little off tune

I wonder why the second 'Om' has fallen out of favour in time? Classically, the Gayatri is:

oM bhUr bhuvaH svaH
oM tat savitur vareNyam
bhargo devasya dhImahi
dhiyo yo naH pracodayAt

But there is an even 'classicer' version that has an unusual parallel with the Bhagavata cosmology:

oM bhuH
oM bhuvaH
oM svaH
oM mahaH
oM janaH
oM tapaH
oM satyaM

oM tat savitur vareNyam
bhargo devasya dhImahi
dhiyo yo naH pracodayAt

oM apo-jyotiH
raso 'mRtaM
brahma bhUr bhuvaH svaH oM

A nice book about this was written by the late Sadguru Sant Keshavadas, which I got when I was 14. I just now looked him up on the Net and it looks like he was an initiated Madhvite. Interesting.

It can also be chanted on the hand. I couldn't find a net-copy of Keshavadas' hand-diagram but this one will suffice:

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One touches one's thumb on the corresponding area of the fingers as one chants each component of the mantra. When that is finished, the tips of the index, middle and ring fingers of the right hand are placed on one's right eye with the chant: oM apo-jyotiH. The same fingers of the right hand are placed on the left eye with the chant: raso 'mRtaM. Then place the same fingers on the third eye and chant: brahma bhUr bhuvaH svaH oM.

should we move this thread to unmoderated so no lesser castes can read it?

You're right. This divya-jnan isn't for the mlecchas. I was in an audarya mood when I wrote all the above, apologies.

maybe we could start a new section, different than "unmoderated" where only the spiritually qualified could read it and thus have the password?

Yeah, but then that would mean only you would be qualified to have a password to go and read your own posts???

It's part of the loneliness of godliness that eventually makes creation take place for personal amusement purposes, and before you know it, Gods are playing the Wii II and we are all digitized characters writing posts about divya-jnan on GR.

Me thinks she was all puffed up with all her mantras and that fancy singing.

Elsewhere you can see her smoking the sacred ganja, so maybe she is working her way up the ladder to be a Guru?

If I remember correctly (there may be an issue of a supposed "half-syllable" that, if valid, would throw this situation off slightly), the part of it all that has the gAyatrI's correct number of syllables, 24, is:

oM tat savitur vareNyam
bhargo devasya dhImahi
dhiyo yo naH pracodayAt

Therefore, all the other stuff might be seen as addition to the essential part.

Once in July 2004 I had a session of converting Sanskrit poetry into vector shapes. I wrote a script that maps Sanskrit phonemes to angles used as control handles for Bézier curves that in turn create vector shapes in Macromedia Director. I then tweaked a script producing PDF output from the vector shapes, and loaded the PDFs into Adobe Illustrator. In Illustrator I manually added colors, strokes and gradients. While the angle attributions are arbitrary and only loosely adapted to reflect angles in the vowel trapezoid, the shapes themselves are nevertheless internally consistent.

The shapes act like a script as it were (like Devanagari), only that the whole concept is made to produce symmetrical shapes that are pleasing to behold. My choice of colors is also arbitrary, or perhaps better subjective, as I was trying to reflect some mood or emotions I felt in connection with the mantras I converted.

I earlier posted on GR a series of Brahma-Gayatri vector images, and later some of a Kanya-Kumari Gayatri. Since this thread lends itself to the topic, I thought I post one of my earliest experiments with vector shape conversions. This is an image of the first one and a half lines of the Rudra-Gayatri:

Where are the other (earlier) posts ePiTau (do you remember); this stuff's pretty groovy.

I can see a yogi sitting in padmAsana in the middle. The position of his hands resembles that of a Buddha. Can anyone else see it?

facinating. I saved the images Ep posted before of the Brahma gayatri but I'm not sure where the thread is

The image showing the first line of the Durga Kanya-Kumari gayatri is here.

Some variations of the Brahma gayatri are on the same page, just a few posts later.

Thanks, they're really good. Perhaps it's just mental association with the familiar, but, something about them reminds me of Crowley's Thoth Tarot deck!

Glad you like them. I had a deck of cards in mind, in more than one sense. The first sense is related to a vision I had in the early seventies. I had been experimenting with substances and ended up in a state that was a little difficult. Like I couldn't keep my eyes open because the stuff around me looked so drab, and I couldn't close my eyes, because as soon as I tried I felt extremely dizzy, like sea-sick. I was tossed around between open and closed eyes, until I settled for closed. I found a position, sitting on the ground, supporting myself with my arms against the ground since I had nothing to lean against. Now, with my eyes closed, I had a sensation as if disappearing in the black space behind me, like driving backwards at ever increasing velocity. All of a sudden I discovered that in this total blackness that surrounded me, I could see the shapes of my thoughts. They were abstract shapes. Three dimensional. Very colorful. Like models of molecular structures. More complex than DNA. More symmetrical. I found that I could hold any thought isolated from other mental noise (in fact, there was no noise). I could hold any thought as long as I wished. I could zoom int the three dimensional image and discovered that within the endless resolution there were all possible mental associations and connections I had ever had with that one particular thought in my entire life. I became quite exhilarated. I tried different thoughts and it worked like a charm. The proportions of the 3D images were like those of playing cards.

I later tried in my work to recreate some aspects of this vision. Perhaps this is also partially what inspires me to experiment with abstract art that is in one or more ways connected to and derived from language or math. Here is an image that I created from a recursive trigonometric function. Best to click on the image to view it in its native resolution. It will not bee too big, since I already scaled it down for the net. The original format is EPS, and I converted it to GIF and applied dither plus diffusion transparency. This creates the slight craquelure in the background. CTRL + on Firefox will magnify the full-size image further without introducing new artifacts.

I've always liked fractals, Ek. Have you ever experimented with those in your graphical adventures?

thought and matter are interrelated as far as I can tell

epi's images i thought looked a little risque, do we want to move them to unmoderated?

That description with the closed eyes sounds mesmerizing enough that you'd want to keep closing your eyes to keep having it for as long as you can as long as you live.

Good thing you don't find computers drab to give you something you want to do to have your eyes open.

I wonder what makes some people desire and enjoy such experiences, while others just get uncomfortable and scared. I am in the latter category. I got drunk, real drunk, just once after a friend challenged me saying I was avoiding something I had not even tried. So I poured 3 or 4 glasses of vodka in my throat. I felt pretty much like what Ek describes here above. I hated it, I had no control and couldn't do any of the things I might have enjoyed. I felt limited, confused, I just wanted out. I went to sleep. (Wasn't so easy with the room dancing valtz all around me.)

I don't think notions such as courage or curiosity explain that much.

These mathematical trigonometric functionary yantra's are wonderful stuff Ep, and you should indeed do something with these, be it cards or a book with your contemplative musings beside them. Can't keep these creative ideas to yourself, the world is calling for them to be released...if you shut down the computer and any other sound sources and listen intently...you will definitely hear it!

3 or 4 glasses at once? Blimey, no wonder!

lightwieghts arent admitted entrance to the ethanol lila

That's what i was thinking too 3 or 4 glasses for this acid trip effect i thought i read it wrong. No wonder the polish are famous alcoholics they are ultra responsive to alcohol like the amerindians.

Ah, maybe within 15 minutes' span. What would you have suggested, Brainiac?

Ahem. I cannot seem to take anything. Now I am living in the coffee-land of Sweden, these people need coffee more than oxygen. It energizes them, harmonizes them, de-stresses and some cannot even fall asleep without a cup of coffee in the evening. While I just experience my heart pounding and my hands shaking. I don't drink coffee -- unless I can't avoid it -- and never after 3 pm, because I wouldn't be able to fall asleep 7-8 hours later.

But it has its advantages. I get energized by tea. And if I want to get tipsy, half a glass of wine is enough

He once made a series of tiny applications, based on a mathematical function, where you could see this kind of yantra-figure draw itself, with just one line growing progressively more and more complex. I have been asking if he could upload it but he said it's rather complicated to do, in some way.

I never worked with fractals although I am quite fascinated by them.

I like to script up systems that can produce complex and unpredictable patterns (sounds or graphics). Then I make some control and feedback mechanisms and explore what happens if I tweak those. In the beginning I never cared to put together a user interface. I did most changes directly in the code. Interactive and playful. On the downside I often forgot how I got where I got. I added a function or tweaked some algorithms, tested a little more and worked my way until it became so big and unpredictable that I had something to play with for a while. Some shapes I selected for further exploration. Snapshots from running series of transformations of transformations of transformations and so on. Many patterns evolved after thousands of iterations through convoluted algorithms.

I programmed it so it ran just slow enough to be able to discern individual images. When I caught something I found exciting (something that reminded me of a face, a flower, an artifact or whatever) I clicked a snapshot button (the only user interface item I eventually cared to program). The result was an image that might or might not be worth keeping. It also recorded coordinates, so to speak, of where in the iteration I stopped. This in turn was useful to narrow down the region to get closer to the interesting spots faster. Things that outwardly just looked like blobs revealed fascinating internal structures when one zoomed in. The poor CPU in my PC was often close to a terrible heat death when I used tens of thousands of vector nodes and control handles that I demanded to be calculated and displayed with colors and gradients (and later sounds).

Here is an image I saved from a screen shot after my system crashed badly. It ha all the wrong colors and something like a wire frame structure. That was not intended to be so. I had programmed it to produced a series of slightly rotated stacked curves that would grow increasingly smaller (or was it bigger?). Something happened and the system froze.

No idea, hehe. I think 15 mins is what it would take me to handle one glass of (neat) vodka. But then I suppose I like making things last...

Ek, wow! To think that the wire structure in your image bears a good resemblance to the Eiffel Tower is amazing!

Ek if you do not be careful not your finger but whole arm may pop off.

It came off as the Eiffel Tower! Yesterday I was watching a documentary with a lady who is in love with the Eiffel Tower says it is her husband and that she has a sexual and romantic relationship with it. This is a sexual orientation with a name like heterosexual or homosexual perhaps this belongs in the LGBT thread. When people ask the people who have it how can this be, and for example, how does she know the Eiffel Tower is a man, they say obviously you are not animists because if you were you would know it is masculine energy, and as in animism, everything is alive in particular vibrations and these Eiffel Tower particle vibrations are resonating with her intimately.

Here is a picture of another lady with this sexual orientation with her lover The Berlin Wall which she got legally married to in the 70s.

Arm Popov is not good! I must avoid.
The Berlin Wall image is great. I lived there couple years with no clue some were wall married!

If you enjoyed that maybe you will enjoy

Richard Feynman, physics Nobel Prize laureate, playing bongos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKTSaezB4p8

lol

extracting rasa blood from a drum.
(orange juice).

Its shape reminds me of a human brain.
Did you try anything else since ?

I have not done any new text to vector conversions, lately. I would certainly like to get back to it, sometime. I am presently mainly working with Pure Data, Max/MSP, and Max for Live. Experimenting with my bizarre algorithms for sound generation. I discovered that I get vastly different results depending on the differing methods used for calculating tangent and arc tangent in different programming languages. My original calculations were done on an HP calculator with 12 decimals floating point precision. The results were, for all I can tell, non-repetitive, an "endless" series of unique values. After that I moved to a PHP non real time implementation. That was exactly last summer, when for the first time I could analyze large data sets. Here two the precision of 11 decimals provided unique values, but the results were not exactly the same as what I had gotten from my HP calculator (and I had become attached to that).

Now, after getting Pure Data and MAX, I discovered that PD's arctan results are very different. It seems like PD rounds it's floats to six decimals. This means that after a certain number of iterations or recursions through my algorithm the function locks itself into a loop. If I use PHP, Perl, or JavaScript, I do not end up in loops. In a way that observation leads me to think that it is the asymmetries, the rounding errors, that enable endless variations. As if imperfections make our existence possible in the first place (gulp9).

Good thing is that MAX/MSP allows JavaScript objects and can fully interact with them, write values to and read values from embedded JS. This means I can do my algorithms in real time with JS in MAX. And this is my project for this summer. And, back to the vector shapes. Both PD and MAX have functions for Bézier curves and are capable of graphics and video output. I could imagine to connect the dots, in the end. One thing though, my vector shapes really thrived on a forced symmetry, and I am not so sure anymore about symmetry. It is beautiful, but apparently unreal. Perhaps I will find a way to combine it all.

I hope you soon get back to making some more of those pictures. Imperfection is one of the basic ideas of Chinese and Japanese art. (Babu once started a thread here about a dint in his furniture which made it better, wabi-sabi in japanese art) so you're certainly on to something...

Yes, I damaged a 5000$ desk I was entrusted to transport and educated the owner of the zen wabi-sabi aesthete and that now his desk acquired character with the dinks. He thanked me.

Thank you for an absolutely incomprehensible reply.
I understand nothing of this tech talk, but that's ok.
I thought there was maybe some connection between what you were doing with the software and the picture resulting from it.

can't be ruled out

Of course he thanked you, art education don't come cheap.

The Rorschach test : an ink blot which is used as a test in psychology for analyzing your psyche.
Here, the "blot" is produced by software, so it's something very different. Of course, an obvious shape such as a human brain, or a sitting Buddha figure, is something one may read into it without actual significance.

On the internet, you will find the Gayatri Mantra sung by Anuradha Paudwal (108 times, as prescribed). She sings it beautifully.