QUOTE (evakurvan @ Dec 23 2008, 05:06 PM)
Seriously because people can choose to act the same dismissive way toward you, even if you are not wacky like the tin foil hat people - although based on stories on this forum, they could think you are, and quickly could be scared to associate themselves with any science or maths information even loosely linked to anything you say from fear of humiliation by epitau association ... And not to be a bleeding heart but what does it do to the private truth of people who for real suffer from these things.
Ok, in all seriousness. Nobody is "humiliating" anybody and this isn't "my" thread. Of course everyone has the right to their own opinion and also to disagree with mine. Or Epitau's. Also, my opinions are my own;
I may be in the profession but I do not profess to know everything nor do I mindlessly defend anything, I have my own opinions too. Therefore I resent pompous and ill-informed suggestions that my views are "Establishment" when everyone and their dog knows that scientific learning requires the development of critical thinking. Also, I find being compared to the Nazis not only highly offensive, but crass and vulgar. Just remember, I got viciously attacked just for pointing out that Softbrain's information originated from a non-scientific article. This is just simple basic research, pointing out that sensationalist and panicky allegations are being made by a non-scientist who in all probability doesn't know what he's talking about. But to merely point this out is much more boring because the information itself is hot gossip? Ah, such is the way of the world.. a sore lack of critical thinking. Anyway let's give the benefit of the doubt and these CIA-conspiracy theories are all true. So what? If it is true, it was highly unethical and shouldn't have been done. Did anybody discover the law of gravity through "scientific" means? No, an apple just fell on Newton's head. Shall we all laugh at this guy for sitting under a tree and getting a knock on the head from a fruit? Or shall we celebrate it since it has given us a much better understanding of how the world works and futhered knowledge into how the planets remain in their orbits?
For all this stuff about using electric currents to achieve "mind control", again so what? There is electricity in the brain already, neurons are being fired all the time, so it is "common sense" that expertise in manipulating the 'natural' electric currents with 'artificial' electric currents will lead to people becoming "mindless slaves" if they hit the right frequency. Is this a good thing? Of course not. This is all discussed in the article I posted from Scientific American, which acknowledged the controversy and provided a balanced
view of it unlike the sensationalist slop. And it is a controversy, because any
technology can be open to abuse, fear and criticism as we have seen in recent years with issues like Dolly the sheep, genetics, stem cells etc. Just recently I posted a story about a British couple due to give birth to a "genetically modified" baby expected not to develop breast cancer.
But zapping brain cells with electricity can have some very good applications. Like what, I hear you say? I say, ever heard of Parkinson's Disease? Michael J. Fox has it. Terry Thomas died of it. Many more have it and have also died of it. It's main features consist of tremors, rigidity, bradykinesia (slow movement) and unstable posture, which all get worse with time. There is no cure for it, and bad news from neurogenetics research says that PD is inheritable. Not always, but having it in the family increases the possibility of it being inherited just like with breast cancer. And yet a procedure has been developed called Deep Brain Stimulation
that has resulted in the surprising reduction of all these effects. Not quite a cure, but the closest thing to it and the quality of life has immensely improved for many PD sufferers who have undergone this treatment. What does DBS involve? Funnily enough, it involves zapping the brain with electricity. A "brain pacemaker" is implanted in the brain where regular low-voltage shocks are administered to the targeted areas of the brain that moderate the PD-symptoms. How It Works
Oh, but these are all "Establishment" views from "Establishment" websites, me and my Mengele-like friends just gloss over the dangers with screams of conspiracy theories. I guess it's much more fun and exciting to believe that the government secretly hate their citizens and love to use them as guinea pigs for their clone-drone top-secret classified operations.
People have a choice to make: they can either evaluate the evidence for themselves, or they can get carried away screaming "mind control" and hole up in their nuclear bunker shelters wearing tinfoil bodysuits bought from Ebay. That they have the freedom to make this choice is a wonder in itself. Make the choice and reap the consequences. There's karma in action right there.
Now I'm off for dinner.