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sri radha krsna das
I do not have anything to be grateful for concerning ISKCON it has never been any help to my advancement regarding the total understanding of the present day primitive and superstitious Indian version of GOD.
Kalisurfer
QUOTE (sri radha krsna das @ Apr 18 2008, 12:20 PM)
I do not have anything to be grateful for concerning ISKCON it has never been any help to my advancement regarding the total understanding of the present day primitive and superstitious Indian version of GOD.
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Is there something other than ISKCON that you are grateful for and has that something other than ISKCON advanced your understanding of what you call the present day primitive and superstitious Indian version of God?
Tapati
Please keep in mind that we have members who do revere various Indian versions of God and kindly word your posts as your opinion rather than fact. Primitive and superstitious are your opinions, not proven facts.

This helps us keep debates and discussions civil among members who have a wide variety of beliefs.

Thanks! FLOWERS.GIF
zanardi
QUOTE (sri radha krsna das @ Apr 18 2008, 05:20 PM)
I do not have anything to be grateful for concerning ISKCON it has never been any help to my advancement regarding the total understanding of the present day primitive and superstitious Indian version of GOD.
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Why is that?
sri radha krsna das
QUOTE (sri radha krsna das @ Apr 18 2008, 04:20 PM)
I do not have anything to be grateful for concerning ISKCON it has never been any help to my advancement regarding the total understanding of the present day primitive and superstitious Indian version of GOD.
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I first saw the planet earth during the time of intergalactic colonization probably at a distant on board an intergalactic pleasure cruiser.

I was eventually reincarnated and took a good position In the celestial air force and later was involve during Inter Planet war against the alien invasion, sadly eventually the Planet was left in ruins and there was a massive evacuation.

My Space ship got shot down by the enemies and crashed down Into the South American jungle, which account for my first completed lifetime on the Planet Earth. Since then I have had approximately a hundred and fifty incarnations around the globe going back some 5000 years ago.

During this lifetime I have been physically visited by and communicated to directly from that same celestial air force and their much newer star fleet commander.
sri radha krsna das
QUOTE (Tapati @ Apr 18 2008, 11:46 PM)
Please keep in mind that we have members who do revere various Indian versions of God and kindly word your posts as your opinion rather than fact. Primitive and superstitious are your opinions, not proven facts.

This helps us keep debates and discussions civil among members who have a wide variety of beliefs.

Thanks!  FLOWERS.GIF
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According to Hindu mythological art various God or Goddesses are shown having many heads and various set of arms also there are cosmic aeroplanes that resemble looking like a bird or lotus flower.

Is not the artist grossly exaggerating reality is it not a completely vague adaptation of the creation and were superstitious nonsense has been influenced by smoking marijuana or taking LSD.

There are indeed many amazing stories but unbelievably many people accept every single word without any maneuverability or proper interpretation this might seen as heretical doctrine implying conspiracies theories.

For thousands of years Ancient India has been speculating on various ancient stories by trying to understand serious advance scientific ideas.

There is a lot of the evidence to support how the original information was left unclear by the authors or distorted and is now degraded.
Just like the UFOs dispute or one world government cover up today!
sri radha krsna das
QUOTE (zanardi @ Apr 19 2008, 08:19 AM)
QUOTE (sri radha krsna das @ Apr 18 2008, 05:20 PM)
I do not have anything to be grateful for concerning ISKCON it has never been any help to my advancement regarding the total understanding of the present day primitive and superstitious Indian version of GOD.
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Why is that?
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I despise all religious fanatics who go around Bible-bashing or Koran bashing or Gita bashing. I spent most of my life contesting and investigating many new-age cults especially their leaders who are effectively fascist dictatorship.

Many of these leaders are self-opinionated also egotistical and have serious delusions thinking they have some GOD status.
This does not mean that I go to the other extreme saying that everybody is a devil.
sri radha krsna das
QUOTE (sri radha krsna das @ Apr 18 2008, 04:20 PM)
I do not have anything to be grateful for concerning ISKCON it has never been any help to my advancement regarding the total understanding of the present day primitive and superstitious Indian version of GOD.
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Being able to precious express your individualized experiences and guiding beliefs without being suppressed or manipulated by a false or corrupted religions that are completely conditional they have a creed and have an insidious dogma.

All kinds of scriptural masturbation, philosophical speculation is inclined towards argumentative even violent activities.

May be there are even more than a hundred thousand people that have become victims of some of these eastern religious missionaries and feel disillusioned and cheated if there are two hundred fifty members on this site what is the common denominator that makes us all the more wise.
sri radha krsna das
QUOTE (Kalisurfer @ Apr 18 2008, 05:42 PM)
QUOTE (sri radha krsna das @ Apr 18 2008, 12:20 PM)
I do not have anything to be grateful for concerning ISKCON it has never been any help to my advancement regarding the total understanding of the present day primitive and superstitious Indian version of GOD.
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Is there something other than ISKCON that you are grateful for and has that something other than ISKCON advanced your understanding of what you call the present day primitive and superstitious Indian version of God?
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In my opinion" "In my observation" "I believe that"
In my opinion" "In my observation" "I believe that"

Has my life on the planet earth been a living hell concerning?
The International Society for Krishna consciousness?
May I introduce myself by simplifying my story?

I was born a Roman Catholic and attended a Roman Catholic schooling. Shortly after due to my past good deeds and my childhood religious inclinations.
The Holy Spirit guided me to a secret initiation that led to incredible circumstances to receive a mystical revelation. Finally God and the Archangels had finished with their work I came out of my three-year trance transformed into a liberated soul.

Interestingly from my perspective my introduction to already corrupted activities and secret plans of a small group of influential men in India who had a mission! By sending an unqualified person to America to promote their organization.By also extracting secretly already translated Sanskrit material from another Sanskrit scholar works and adding speculative self-opinionated commentaries.

At a time when it was fashionable for hippies un-educated and disorientated, Young people who were looking for a religious fascist dictator to follow especially some body who assumed the position of falsely representing GOD.

The International Society for Krishna consciousness as proven to be an obnoxious and poisonous cult sadly all those victims infected by the contamination of there miss-management, that continues exploiting and abusing hundreds of thousands of people many who have been unjustly dismissed by deluding hypocrites or evil demons under the disguise of assumed to be holy dressed in orange robes presenting a corrupted religious organization as being perfect.

I do not have anything to be grateful for concerning ISKCON it has never been any help to my advancement regarding the total understanding of the present day primitive and superstitious worldly version of GOD.

Like wise I did not live in India 5000 years ago or 500 years ago respectively, I have had approximately 150 interesting reincarnations since my first visited to the planet earth.
Kalisurfer
QUOTE (sri radha krsna das @ Apr 23 2008, 11:12 AM)
QUOTE (sri radha krsna das @ Apr 18 2008, 04:20 PM)
I do not have anything to be grateful for concerning ISKCON it has never been any help to my advancement regarding the total understanding of the present day primitive and superstitious Indian version of GOD.
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I first saw the planet earth during the time of intergalactic colonization probably at a distant on board an intergalactic pleasure cruiser.

I was eventually reincarnated and took a good position In the celestial air force and later was involve during Inter Planet war against the alien invasion, sadly eventually the Planet was left in ruins and there was a massive evacuation.

My Space ship got shot down by the enemies and crashed down Into the South American jungle, which account for my first completed lifetime on the Planet Earth. Since then I have had approximately a hundred and fifty incarnations around the globe going back some 5000 years ago.

During this lifetime I have been physically visited by and communicated to directly from that same celestial air force and their much newer star fleet commander.
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What does this intergalactic story have to do with ISKCON and you not having any gratitude toward it, not to mention your realizations that would go beyond their explanation of God?
Kalisurfer
QUOTE (sri radha krsna das @ Apr 23 2008, 11:33 AM)
QUOTE (Kalisurfer @ Apr 18 2008, 05:42 PM)
QUOTE (sri radha krsna das @ Apr 18 2008, 12:20 PM)
I do not have anything to be grateful for concerning ISKCON it has never been any help to my advancement regarding the total understanding of the present day primitive and superstitious Indian version of GOD.
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Is there something other than ISKCON that you are grateful for and has that something other than ISKCON advanced your understanding of what you call the present day primitive and superstitious Indian version of God?
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Has my life on the planet earth been a living hell concerning?
The International Society for Krishna consciousness?
May I introduce myself by simplifying my story?

I was born a Roman Catholic and attended a Roman Catholic schooling. Shortly after due to my past good deeds and my childhood religious inclinations.
The Holy Spirit guided me to a secret initiation that led to incredible circumstances to receive a mystical revelation. Finally God and the Archangels had finished with their work I came out of my three-year trance transformed into a liberated soul.

Interestingly from my perspective my introduction to already corrupted activities and secret plans of a small group of influential men in India who had a mission! By sending an unqualified person to America to promote their organization.By also extracting secretly already translated Sanskrit material from another Sanskrit scholar works and adding speculative self-opinionated commentaries.

At a time when it was fashionable for hippies un-educated and disorientated, Young people who were looking for a religious fascist dictator to follow especially some body who assumed the position of falsely representing GOD.

The International Society for Krishna consciousness as proven to be an obnoxious and poisonous cult sadly all those victims infected by the contamination of there miss-management, that continues exploiting and abusing hundreds of thousands of people many who have been unjustly dismissed by deluding hypocrites or evil demons under the disguise of assumed to be holy dressed in orange robes presenting a corrupted religious organization as being perfect.

I do not have anything to be grateful for concerning ISKCON it has never been any help to my advancement regarding the total understanding of the present day primitive and superstitious Indian version of GOD.

Like wise I did not live in India 5000 years ago or 500 years ago respectively, I have had approximately 150 interesting reincarnations since my first visited to the planet earth.
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All you are doing is copying and pasting from your bio and it does not address the question posed to you.
Tapati
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sri radha krsna das, please read the rules and guidelines:

http://www.gaudiya-repercussions.com/index...?act=boardrules

Please consider that some of our members revere the things you are trashing here. You are stating things as facts that are matters of your opinion.

Try interspersing phrases such as "In my opinion" "In my observation" "I believe that" and so on, and make your language less inflammatory and confrontational.

If you continue the outright bashing of other religious beliefs you will receive official warnings that could lead to your account being deleted.
sri radha krsna das
QUOTE (sri radha krsna das @ Apr 18 2008, 04:20 PM)
I do not have anything to be grateful for concerning ISKCON it has never been any help to my advancement regarding the total understanding of the present day primitive and superstitious worldly version of GOD.
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In my opinion" "In my observation" "I believe that"
Worldly versions of GOD.

1. South America and North American
2. Northern European and Roman mythology
3. Greek and Egyptian
4. Ancient Chinese and Ancient Indian
5. African and Russian
Tapati
QUOTE (sri radha krsna das @ Apr 23 2008, 07:45 AM)
QUOTE (sri radha krsna das @ Apr 18 2008, 04:20 PM)
I do not have anything to be grateful for concerning ISKCON it has never been any help to my advancement regarding the total understanding of the present day primitive and superstitious worldly version of GOD.
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In my opinion" "In my observation" "I believe that"
Worldly versions of GOD.

1. South America and North American
2. Northern European and Roman mythology
3. Greek and Egyptian
4. Ancient Chinese and Ancient Indian
5. African and Russian
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What, in your mind, makes them worldly? And please do try to cultivate a respectful attitude for those with different beliefs or you will not last long here where we have members who believe in some of these Gods you are indicating.

Finally, if all you have come here for is to promote your site rather than have real discussions with other members, you will find your stay here to be short indeed.
sri radha krsna das
QUOTE (Tapati @ Apr 23 2008, 03:43 PM)
Mod Hat On--

sri radha krsna das, please read the rules and guidelines:

http://www.gaudiya-repercussions.com/index...?act=boardrules

Please consider that some of our members revere the things you are trashing here. You are stating things as facts that are matters of your opinion.

Try interspersing phrases such as "In my opinion" "In my observation" "I believe that" and so on, and make your language less inflammatory and confrontational.

If you continue the outright bashing of other religious beliefs you will receive official warnings that could lead to your account being deleted.
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I WILL DO AS YOU SAY ASAP THANK FOR YOUR VERY GOOD ADVICE

Sorry to test your rules you know that explaining ones personal experiences regarding sri radha krsna is all about love how much do you love me ?

How much do you love GOD 1% OR 100% IS A GOOD ?
How much do you love YOURSELF !
How much do you love RUNNING THIS SITE !

GIVE UP ALL RELIGION SURRENDER TO GOD REMEMBER LOVE IS GOD BE HAPPY
Kalisurfer
QUOTE (sri radha krsna das @ Apr 23 2008, 11:53 AM)
Sorry to test your rules you know that explaining ones personal experiences regarding sri radha krsna is all about love how much do you love me ?
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What you are writing Sri is hard to understand and follow. Why are you asking a forum administrator if they love you? You are not coming across as someone who is taking this forum seriously at all, even in a humorous way if that is your intent. Without allowing yourself to get acquainted with members and moderators, you seem to be testing the guidelines without any real desire to communicate in a coherent way.
sri radha krsna das
QUOTE (Kalisurfer @ Apr 23 2008, 04:19 PM)
QUOTE (sri radha krsna das @ Apr 23 2008, 11:53 AM)
Sorry to test your rules you know that explaining ones personal experiences regarding sri radha krsna is all about love how much do you love me ?
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What you are writing Sri is hard to understand and follow. Why are you asking a forum administrator if they love you? You are not coming across as someone who is taking this forum seriously at all, even in a humorous way if that is your intent. Without allowing yourself to get acquainted with members and moderators, you seem to be testing the guidelines without any real desire to communicate in a coherent way.
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I AM VERY SOLEMN WERE IS GOD/LOVE IN THIS WORLD OF OURS ? there is so much pain mine and yours !
I am testing how much you personally love god!
I will need to study the rules please give me a few days please before I KNOW WHAT I AM TESTING namaste.gif

PLEASE how do you explain love IN WORDS can you help me mellow.gif
Kalisurfer
QUOTE (sri radha krsna das @ Apr 23 2008, 12:35 PM)
I AM VERY SOLEMN WERE IS GOD/LOVE IN THIS WORLD OF OURS ?
I am testing how much you personally love god!
I will need to study the rules please give me a few days please thanks namaste.gif
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Moderator Note:

This is not a forum to test people as to how much they love God.

It that is your only purpose for being here, you will have to do more than just study the rules, for you will have to reconsider why you even want to be here.

If you continue to write with the sole purpose of testing members as to their love of God, you will be asked to leave...lovingly of course!

Is that understood?
Tapati
I would suggest that you study first, and then post.

Much like driving, one can only safely navigate an unfamiliar culture by observing and study, then tentative practice, and then once one knows the vehicle and the rules of the road, go ahead at the full (allowed) speed.
sri radha krsna das
QUOTE (Kalisurfer @ Apr 23 2008, 04:41 PM)
QUOTE (sri radha krsna das @ Apr 23 2008, 12:35 PM)
I AM VERY SOLEMN WERE IS GOD/LOVE IN THIS WORLD OF OURS ?
I am testing how much you personally love god!
I will need to study the rules please give me a few days please thanks namaste.gif
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Moderator Note:

This is not a forum to test people as to how much they love God.

It that is your only purpose for being here, you will have to do more than just study the rules, for you will have to reconsider why you even want to be here.

If you continue to write with the sole purpose of MAKING IT EASY TO LOVE EACH OTHER by NOT testing members as to their love of GOD=LOVE, you will be asked to leave...lovingly of course!

Is that understood?

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I will not continue to write with the sole purpose of understanding members as to their love of God, thank you saying I be asked to leave...lovingly biggrin.gif
sri radha krsna das
QUOTE (Tapati @ Apr 23 2008, 04:54 PM)
I would suggest that you study first, and then post.

Much like driving, one can only safely navigate an unfamiliar culture by observing and study, then tentative practice, and then once one knows the vehicle and the rules of the road, go ahead at the full (allowed) speed.
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YOUR A LOVELY SOUL THANKS REALLY graduated.gif
Tapati
Perhaps it is a language issue...the word test indicates something different than simply understanding.
Tapati
QUOTE (sri radha krsna das @ Apr 23 2008, 08:58 AM)
QUOTE (Tapati @ Apr 23 2008, 04:54 PM)
I would suggest that you study first, and then post.

Much like driving, one can only safely navigate an unfamiliar culture by observing and study, then tentative practice, and then once one knows the vehicle and the rules of the road, go ahead at the full (allowed) speed.
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YOUR A LOVELY SOUL THANKS REALLY graduated.gif
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You're welcome.
Brainiac
I think Sri Radha Krishna das has the potential to become a valued member of this forum wub.gif

I'm especially interested in acquiring further details of his 150 previous lifetimes and also as much information as he can give about these intergalactic alien invasions and the celestial airforce with Mr Spock on board and the new Starfleet Commander. Why is he new? Has he only had 20 previous lives or so, or is he new to the job? Young people are taking over everything and putting the oldies out of work and it's good to see that this is a universal trend, if not an intergalactic one. Is his surname Kirk or Picard by any chance? All these intergalactic wars, why did they happen? Were any treaties broken? Was it because of the traitorous Klingons or were the Borg behind everything as usual? To think that everything I ever saw on Star Trek is actually true!

Sorry, but I find all this absolutely hysterical. rolling.gif
sri radha krsna das
QUOTE (Tapati @ Apr 23 2008, 05:14 PM)
Perhaps it is a language issue...the word test indicates something different than simply understanding.
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We have all SUFFERED in life. Your life story is very good your a beautifull soul
keep it up heart.gif

I will look forward to buying the book everybody must read it bomb.gif
sri radha krsna das
QUOTE (Brainiac @ Apr 23 2008, 05:16 PM)
I think Sri Radha Krishna das has the potential to become a valued member of this forum wub.gif

I'm especially interested in acquiring further details of his 150 previous lifetimes and also as much information as he can give about these intergalactic alien invasions and the celestial airforce with Mr Spock on board and the new Starfleet Commander. Why is he new? Has he only had 20 previous lives or so, or is he new to the job? Young people are taking over everything and putting the oldies out of work and it's good to see that this is a universal trend, if not an intergalactic one. Is his surname Kirk or Picard by any chance? All these intergalactic wars, why did they happen? Were any treaties broken? Was it because of the traitorous Klingons or were the Borg behind everything as usual? To think that everything I ever saw on Star Trek is actually true!

Sorry, but I find all this absolutely hysterical.  rolling.gif
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Sharing personal experiences is very difficult and maybe funny to others
Thank you for helping me to continue being a good sincere member
heart.gif sharing thanks
ePiTau
Oh no! This reminds me of Bashar. What a creepy feeling . . .
Tapati
We must practice the tolerance we wish to see in others. Let's model good forum behavior for the new member, please.
Kalisurfer
QUOTE (sri radha krsna das @ Apr 23 2008, 11:12 AM)
I first saw the planet earth during the time of intergalactic colonization probably at a distant on board an intergalactic pleasure cruiser.

I was eventually reincarnated and took a good position In the celestial air force and later was involve during Inter Planet war against the alien invasion, sadly eventually the Planet was left in ruins and there was a massive evacuation.

My Space ship got shot down by the enemies and crashed down Into the South American jungle, which account for my first completed lifetime on the Planet Earth. Since then I have had approximately a hundred and fifty incarnations around the globe going back some 5000 years ago.

During this lifetime I have been physically visited by and communicated to directly from that same celestial air force and their much newer star fleet commander.
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This historical bio message comes close to being a hybrid of Scientology and Krsna Consciousness. Mix Vedic teachings with Science Fiction, process it through the filter of personal experience and the mind, and anything is possible in terms of faith and belief.

Scientology is based on the belief that 75 million years ago an evil intergalactic ruler named Xenu was concerned about the mass over-population of the universe. Consequently he massacred the populations of 76 planets, froze them, and transported them to earth. On earth he put them into volcanoes and exploded them with atom bombs. However their souls or spirits - called Thetans - were blown apart and left to hover about looking for new bodies to inhabit. Thetans can move into and out of bodies at will, and now inhabit human beings. A Thetan is thus the Scientologists term for the spirit of a person.

Thetans have been compulsively recording intergalactic history for several quadrillion years. Each time a Thetan inhabits a new person they bring with them all the history they have recorded. This means a person has all the memories of previous lifetimes - including lives on other planets and in other galaxies. During the course of these lifetimes evil forces implant people with engrams (motivations to hurt others), or overts (undisclosed actions). In order to become a "Clear", that is one clear of implants, a person needs to be "audited" until they reach the stage of a Top Level Operating Thetan. Auditing involves being connected to a slightly modified lie detector and being asked questions while an auditor takes notes.

A Top Level Operating Thetan is considered to be a spiritually liberated person who is no longer trapped by past life memories or implants. Such people are said to have the ability to make things disappear using the power of their minds. Scientology calls this "as-isness".

Mix the basis of Scientology with the Vedic Tradition and Cosmology…and we are off to the races in hybrid transcendent and intergalactic possibilities. If in the end, one finds love, compassion and understanding that can dispel hate, mistrust and closed mindedness while becoming an honorable loving person, then that would be great for the believer of such things. But if one ends up bitter, judgmental and full of hate toward others who differ in ideas and philosophy, then it’s just one more pair of historical over ripe mind socks that need to be added into the washing machine…where in the rinse cycle, added parody and humor enzymes seem to make them much softer, smell good and easier to wear. cheese.gif heart.gif icon32.gif

You know...the GBC have been known for attempting to shoot down alien space ships for some time know...so who is to say what as-isness actually is...mine...yours...his...hers...theirs or ours? wink.gif

Though I have a sense of foreboding as to what comes next! blush.gif
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