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Kalisurfer
Pope Announces other churches defective and not true…somebody please inform the GBC, the Ritvics, the Baptists and the Jihadi Islamist…and soon!

LORENZAGO DI CADORE, Italy — Pope Benedict XVI reasserted the primacy of the Roman Catholic Church, approving a document released Tuesday that says other Christian communities are either defective or not true churches and Catholicism provides the only true path to salvation.

Pope: Other Christians not true churches

One more seed plated for that human need for spiritual supremacy! If you can’t get it politically, try religion!

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Homer
The kid on the bottom right in the bottom left photo looks like a Jew to me.

Krauts, what else can one say?
angrezi
I'm joining the catholics if they allow vaginal licking
metamorphosis
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there, now he is right!


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9:1. And the fifth angel sounded the trumpet: and I saw a star fall from heaven upon the earth. And there was given to him the key of the bottomless pit.*
Et quintus angelus tuba cecinit et vidi stellam de caelo cecidisse in terram et data est illi clavis putei abyssi

9:2. And he opened the bottomless pit: and the smoke of the pit arose, as the smoke of a great furnace. And the sun and the air were darkened with the smoke of the pit.
Et aperuit puteum abyssi et ascendit fumus putei sicut fumus fornacis magnae et obscuratus est sol et aer de fumo putei

9:3. And from the smoke of the pit there came out locusts upon the earth. And power was given to them, as the scorpions of the earth have power.*
Et de fumo exierunt lucustae in terram et data est illis potestas sicut habent potestatem scorpiones terrae

9:4. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth nor any green thing nor any tree: but only the men who have not the sign of God on their foreheads.    tilak-icona.gif  tilak-icona.gif  tilak-icona.gif Et praeceptum est illis ne laederent faenum terrae neque omne viride neque omnem arborem nisi tantum homines qui non habent signum Dei in frontibus
Homer
QUOTE (angrezi @ Jul 11 2007, 07:02 AM)
I'm joining the catholics if they allow vaginal licking
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Click to view attachmentFirst you gotta give the Pope a kiss.
Gerard
QUOTE (metamorphosis @ Jul 11 2007, 01:11 AM)
9:4. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth nor any green thing nor any tree: but only the men who have not the sign of God on their foreheads. tilak-icona.gif  tilak-icona.gif  tilak-icona.gif Et praeceptum est illis ne laederent faenum terrae neque omne viride neque omnem arborem nisi tantum homines qui non habent signum Dei in frontibus

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But the text continues (Rev.9.5): " And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. ohmy.gif
Bhaktavasya
It now appears that Sinead got the wrong pope (you really have to practise forebearance to get through this video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owa_CFBAWpw

John Paul was so cool compared to the present idiot.
Bhaktavasya
QUOTE (Softbrain @ Jul 10 2007, 05:04 PM)
QUOTE (metamorphosis @ Jul 11 2007, 01:11 AM)

9:4. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth nor any green thing nor any tree: but only the men who have not the sign of God on their foreheads.    tilak-icona.gif  tilak-icona.gif  tilak-icona.gif Et praeceptum est illis ne laederent faenum terrae neque omne viride neque omnem arborem nisi tantum homines qui non habent signum Dei in frontibus

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But the text continues (Rev.9.5): " And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. ohmy.gif
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Revelations has always been a least favourite book of the bible for me since the first time i heard it on lsd 35 years ago (the reality, both internally and externally, went from golden, expansive, mind and soul expansion consciousness straight to hell, even the sun clouded over) until the last time i read it again on lsd while with jayatirtha in Nepal 11years later. This time i felt outrage over depression; that
God supposedly hated these people and those people who the faithful were evidently on friendly terms with but he had a special hatred for the woman Jezebel, he allegedly hated her more than all the other people he hated;

The reason God (again, allegedly) hated Jezebel so much was that she 'taught people to enjoy fornication'. So I'm thinking 'Krishna, Kubja' and trying to imagine Krishna hating anyone and can't. Then i read on and hear that God not only wants her killed, but orders the killing of her children too. http://kfc.joeuser.com/index.asp?c=1&AID=155319

In my mind i thought the equivalent to 'f--k this' but couldn't say it in the presence of JT because he was very particular about never cussing or swearing.

I did express my desire to throw the book out of the window. Jayatiritha calmly steadied my mind and hand ("put the book down, dear, no need for that").

At such times, when logic couldn't prevail, he'd draw me near, kiss me, and praise me for my fiestiness or such tactis, making me forget almost completely what it was that i was seemingly mad at God for. Jayatirtha never wanted me to be mad at God for any reason. The reality that jayatirtha, wise as he was, didn't understand was that i wasn't mad at God (then) but really, really pissed that someone would accuse Krishna of being like that.
violeta
Most Catholics don't listen to the Pope, just like most devotees don't listen to the GBC.

Edited because he isn't a "pop" he is a "pope!'
Homer
QUOTE (violeta @ Jul 12 2007, 07:04 PM)
Most Catholics don't listen to the Pop, just like most devotees don't listen to the GBC.
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But, isn't the Pope in a position like Prabhupada and the GBC are merely administrators?
violeta
QUOTE (Homer @ Jul 12 2007, 06:42 AM)
QUOTE (violeta @ Jul 12 2007, 07:04 PM)
Most Catholics don't listen to the Pop, just like most devotees don't listen to the GBC.
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But, isn't the Pope in a position like Prabhupada and the GBC are merely administrators?
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Not really. He is elected by other big wigs in the Catholic Church. Jesus is more similarly compared to Prabhupada in my opinion...but not the same.
Homer
QUOTE (violeta @ Jul 12 2007, 09:15 PM)
QUOTE (Homer @ Jul 12 2007, 06:42 AM)
QUOTE (violeta @ Jul 12 2007, 07:04 PM)
Most Catholics don't listen to the Pop, just like most devotees don't listen to the GBC.
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But, isn't the Pope in a position like Prabhupada and the GBC are merely administrators?
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Not really. He is elected by other big wigs in the Catholic Church. Jesus is more similarly compared to Prabhupada in my opinion...but not the same.
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Wasn't Prabhupada appointed by his guru? Aren't the gurus of modern BlissGone voted in by ballot of No Objection?

As you are into Jesus, do you think we are all stained with Original Sin?
violeta
QUOTE (Homer @ Jul 12 2007, 11:26 AM)
QUOTE (violeta @ Jul 12 2007, 09:15 PM)
QUOTE (Homer @ Jul 12 2007, 06:42 AM)
QUOTE (violeta @ Jul 12 2007, 07:04 PM)
Most Catholics don't listen to the Pop, just like most devotees don't listen to the GBC.
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But, isn't the Pope in a position like Prabhupada and the GBC are merely administrators?
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Not really. He is elected by other big wigs in the Catholic Church. Jesus is more similarly compared to Prabhupada in my opinion...but not the same.
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Wasn't Prabhupada appointed by his guru? Aren't the gurus of modern BlissGone voted in by ballot of No Objection?

As you are into Jesus, do you think we are all stained with Original Sin?
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I am not into Jesus. Never said I was. I dislike Christianity, personally. I was raised Catholic so I know a little about it, that's all. I don't give a rat's ass about original sin.

Prabhupada wasn't appointed. His guru gave him a mission, but he actually had to go out and achieve it before it was recognized. He wasn't just "given" a position by his cronies.

The "modern" gurus had nothing to do with my original statement. I was just stating what I have observed. Most Catholics I know don't listen to the Pope, and most devotees I know don't really listen to the GBC. Don't put words into my mouth.
Homer
QUOTE (violeta @ Jul 13 2007, 03:05 AM)
I am not into Jesus.  Never said I was.  I dislike Christianity, personally.  I was raised Catholic so I know a little about it, that's all.  I don't give a rat's ass about original sin.

huh.gif Then why do you put Prabhupada on the same level as Jesus?
violeta
QUOTE (Homer @ Jul 12 2007, 02:10 PM)
QUOTE (violeta @ Jul 13 2007, 03:05 AM)


I am not into Jesus.  Never said I was.  I dislike Christianity, personally.  I was raised Catholic so I know a little about it, that's all.  I don't give a rat's ass about original sin.

huh.gif Then why do you put Prabhupada on the same level as Jesus?
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It was a comparison only. Re-read what I wrote. The word compare is clearly written.

I used to think you put words into people's mouths. Now I realize you just don't pay attention to what you are reading. cheese.gif
metamorphosis
QUOTE (violeta @ Jul 12 2007, 05:58 PM)
I used to think you put words into people's mouths.  Now I realize you just don't pay attention to what you are reading. cheese.gif
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And put words into people's mouths. namaste.gif
Gerard
Acharya S (D. M. Murdock) has her simple astrotheological explanation of Christ. He is Son = Sun God, she thinks this also applies to Krishna and Buddha (not in this vid, but in her book "Suns of God; Krishna, Buddha and Christ Unveiled").
Dhyana
QUOTE (Softbrain @ Aug 27 2007, 11:58 PM)
Acharya S (D. M. Murdock) has her simple astrotheological  explanation of Christ. He is Son = Sun God, she thinks this also applies to Krishna and Buddha (not in this vid, but in her book "Suns of God; Krishna, Buddha and Christ Unveiled").
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How genius. laugh.gif w00t.gif
ombudsman
QUOTE (Dhyana @ Aug 28 2007, 01:39 PM)
QUOTE (Softbrain @ Aug 27 2007, 11:58 PM)
Acharya S (D. M. Murdock) has her simple astrotheological  explanation of Christ. He is Son = Sun God, she thinks this also applies to Krishna and Buddha (not in this vid, but in her book "Suns of God; Krishna, Buddha and Christ Unveiled").
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How genius. laugh.gif w00t.gif
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Indeed, reductionism. The astrolological key is but one of the keys to the mysteries of world scriptures. What to speak of things like the Lunar rulership Krsna has!
Gerard
QUOTE (ombudsman @ Aug 29 2007, 12:05 PM)
Indeed, reductionism. The astrolological key is but one of the keys to the mysteries of world scriptures. What to speak of things like the Lunar rulership Krsna has!
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As I said, it is just a simple explanation, based on some solar myths. But as a short intro to that subject I like that video clip.
Tapati


Swami Beyondananda talks about the Three Christs of Ypsilanti in connection with things like the Pope's statements mentioned above (it sounds like the book about them was fascinating but I hear it's hard to get nowadays).

Excerpt:

Some 40 years ago, Dr. Milton Rokeach, a resident psychiatrist at Ypsilanti State Hospital in Michigan, performed an intriguing experiment. Three mental patients at the hospital all had delusions of being Jesus Christ. Dr. Rokeach wondered what would happen if the three Christs were put together in a therapy group. Would they relate to each other? And how would they accommodate each other’s delusions? The result of the experiment was a book, The Three Christs of Ypsilanti, which I read in a college psychology class.

I hadn’t thought about that book for years, until I was reminded of it by two seemingly unrelated news items. The first involved the Middle East peace process, which recently has been neither peaceful nor much of a process. A huge seemingly unresolvable dispute involves Jerusalem, which houses the sacred sites of three major religions. Someone had the enlightening suggestion that Jerusalem be ruled by God. Of course, the next question was, whose God?

The other news item was about the Catholic church declaring that for all intents and purposes, IT alone is the one sure way to heaven -- and perhaps more important, the only certain way to avoid hell. A friend of mine who owns a marketing business (and incidentally grew up Catholic) says, "I can only dream of having such an unbeatable marketing premise. Buy my product, go to heaven. Buy the other guy’s, go to hell." Not to single out the Catholics, though. Fundamentalists of every stripe play out a dyslexic version of that childhood taunt, "My dog’s better than your dog." Except that "my God’s better than your God" has caused millions of deaths and oceans of tears.

And that’s when it occurred to me that the three major religious systems are like the Three Christs of Ypsilanti. Each lives in a delusional system that it alone is the One True Path. And now, God has placed them all in a therapy group to see if they can accommodate one another.


Read more at the link above and at the end there's a great song to the tune of Let's Call the Whole Thing Off. music-smiley-018.gif

For more about The Three Christs of Ypsilanti and its relevance to psychology, click here.

It gives a link to find some of it online.
zanardi
All the different religions should choose their best representative and then a big TV-company could arrange Ultimate Idol competition, where, week by week, people could both follow and vote their own Ultimate Idol to continue in the show.

Finally, after weeks and weeks of hard trials and performances the Absolute Ultimate Idol would be chosen. End of story.
Brainiac
Here's a much better article about the Three Christs, written recently by my friend Vaughan Bell, for Slate: Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.
Brainiac
QUOTE (zanardi @ Jun 8 2010, 09:10 AM) *
All the different religions should choose their best representative and then a big TV-company could arrange Ultimate Idol competition, where, week by week, people could both follow and vote their own Ultimate Idol to continue in the show.

Finally, after weeks and weeks of hard trials and performances the Absolute Ultimate Idol would be chosen. End of story.

And what would Ultimate Idol do after winning? A year's contract as God?
ePiTau
QUOTE (Brainiac @ Jun 9 2010, 06:37 PM) *
QUOTE (zanardi @ Jun 8 2010, 09:10 AM) *
All the different religions should choose their best representative and then a big TV-company could arrange Ultimate Idol competition, where, week by week, people could both follow and vote their own Ultimate Idol to continue in the show.

Finally, after weeks and weeks of hard trials and performances the Absolute Ultimate Idol would be chosen. End of story.

And what would Ultimate Idol do after winning? A year's contract as God?

Ultimate Idol would travel to Ultima Thule and play ping pong with rollmops.
Just try to imagine the sound of rollmops when they are bouncing off the table or get hit by the racket. Sublime.
Brainiac
We should force a regime change in the heavens and institute democracy, install a puppet government that does whatever we tell it to.

Hey, wait! Isn't that what we've been doing all this time? rolleyes.gif
Gaudeamus
QUOTE (Bhaktavasya @ Jul 12 2007, 09:03 AM) *
It now appears that Sinead got the wrong pope (you really have to practise forebearance to get through this video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owa_CFBAWpw

John Paul was so cool compared to the present idiot.

Don't call him an idiot. He is an old man, and he is really of good will.
His past in the Hitlerjugend as an adolescent is not his own fault. At that time, you had to join and silence your own opinions, whether your were for or against it.
babu
QUOTE (Gaudeamus @ Jun 26 2010, 08:31 AM) *
QUOTE (Bhaktavasya @ Jul 12 2007, 09:03 AM) *
It now appears that Sinead got the wrong pope (you really have to practise forebearance to get through this video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owa_CFBAWpw

John Paul was so cool compared to the present idiot.

Don't call him an idiot. He is an old man, and he is really of good will.
His past in the Hitlerjugend as an adolescent is not his own fault. At that time, you had to join and silence your own opinions, whether your were for or against it.


Thank you for this intelligent post. The present Pope Benedict has as well done great work when he was a cardinal by covering up sexual abuses of priests so as the common person's devotion to Deity was not disturbed by a few minor indescretions.
Gaudeamus
QUOTE (babu @ Jun 27 2010, 04:29 PM) *
QUOTE (Gaudeamus @ Jun 26 2010, 08:31 AM) *
QUOTE (Bhaktavasya @ Jul 12 2007, 09:03 AM) *
It now appears that Sinead got the wrong pope (you really have to practise forebearance to get through this video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owa_CFBAWpw

John Paul was so cool compared to the present idiot.

Don't call him an idiot. He is an old man, and he is really of good will.
His past in the Hitlerjugend as an adolescent is not his own fault. At that time, you had to join and silence your own opinions, whether your were for or against it.


Thank you for this intelligent post. The present Pope Benedict has as well done great work when he was a cardinal by covering up sexual abuses of priests so as the common person's devotion to Deity was not disturbed by a few minor indescretions.
You are welcome, and thank you for your appreciation.
Pope Benedict has, of course, done nothing else than pursue the course the Church has traditionally taken. He has now however to deal with some very new and disturbing events in society, and I wouldn't like to be in his shoes.
babu
QUOTE (Gaudeamus @ Jun 27 2010, 02:19 PM) *
QUOTE (babu @ Jun 27 2010, 04:29 PM) *
QUOTE (Gaudeamus @ Jun 26 2010, 08:31 AM) *
QUOTE (Bhaktavasya @ Jul 12 2007, 09:03 AM) *
It now appears that Sinead got the wrong pope (you really have to practise forebearance to get through this video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owa_CFBAWpw

John Paul was so cool compared to the present idiot.

Don't call him an idiot. He is an old man, and he is really of good will.
His past in the Hitlerjugend as an adolescent is not his own fault. At that time, you had to join and silence your own opinions, whether your were for or against it.


Thank you for this intelligent post. The present Pope Benedict has as well done great work when he was a cardinal by covering up sexual abuses of priests so as the common person's devotion to Deity was not disturbed by a few minor indescretions.
You are welcome, and thank you for your appreciation.
Pope Benedict has, of course, done nothing else than pursue the course the Church has traditionally taken. He has now however to deal with some very new and disturbing events in society, and I wouldn't like to be in his shoes.



Agree, this Pope is infallible. I assume you are talking about the gulf oil spill as the disturbing event in society. I feel an excellent solution would be for the Pope to annoint the oil in the gulf and then when people bathed there, they would be cleansed of their sins. Unfortunately, I can assure you the secularists would protest as it being something about violating Constitutional guarantees of separation of church and state.
Kalisurfer
QUOTE (babu @ Jun 27 2010, 08:49 PM) *
Unfortunately, I can assure you the secularists would protest as it being something about violating Constitutional guarantees of separation of church and state.

Right now, the secular scientist are just interested in the separation of oil and water, something the constitution does not guarantee, though BP did have a 30 day warranty that has now expired.
babu
May he who is free from fossil fuel based energy toss the first stone.
Kalisurfer
QUOTE (babu @ Jun 28 2010, 08:12 AM) *
May he who is free from fossil fuel based energy toss the first stone.

You can't even find a stone that is not tainted with the stuff, much less a thrower... but I toss them anyway with a sense of knowing futility... and they are not the first ... or last to be thrown.
Gaudeamus
QUOTE (babu @ Jun 28 2010, 02:12 PM) *
May he who is free from fossil fuel based energy toss the first stone.

Do you perhaps mean "the first piece of coal", Babu ?
babu
yes, toss first piece of coal or oil shale.
RiffRaff
QUOTE (Tapati @ Jun 7 2010, 07:48 PM) *
Swami Beyondananda talks about the Three Christs of Ypsilanti in connection with things like the Pope's statements mentioned above (it sounds like the book about them was fascinating but I hear it's hard to get nowadays).


If you're talking about the book:
Suns of God; Krishna, Buddha and Christ Unveiled
I have a pdf of it and other books by A.S.
pm me if you're interested
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