HONG KONG (Reuters) - A 107-year-old Hong Kong villager, who still enjoys an occasional smoke, has attributed his longevity in part to decades of sexual abstinence, a newspaper said on Sunday.

"I don't know why I have lived this long," Chan Chi -- one of Hong Kong's oldest people -- was quoted as saying in the South China Morning Post during an annual feast for the city's elders.

"Maybe it has to do with the fact that I have lived a sex-less life for many years -- since I was 30," said Chan, a widower whose youthful bride perished during the Japanese invasion in World War Two.

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you're wanting meta to live a long time?

Uh-huh.

purport?

I have thought about this often. We grew Apple Trees in the Orchard on the Hill @Gita Nagari (i am sure that nothing happens to the apples any more, now that the black foot took over the farm, jai KrsnaPada for your VyasaPuja, not)

Anyways the Expert Gardener we had so long ago was working the trees everyday. I would go up and visit him sometimes.

Once he told me that he was going around and pinching off the buds of apples to keep the trees from bearing fruit. I asked why, he said that it helped the trees get all the nutrients they could in their first years. He said all that sex life drained them of strength.

I wish i could pinch my buds so easily, and allow for a year of not bearing fruit.

I believe it is true for longevity to keep it in. Spilling is bad, umkay?

Well, I wouldn't want to kill him slowly, would I?

pinching the butt... good
spilling the seed, bad


sounds like a t-shirt for you

On the other hand, if you can't have sex for years and years, how long would you retain the will to live?

how about having violeta take on the masculine role and meta the feminine role? that way you still have some pleasure

No way...I am 110% girly-girl. I am not gonna strap it on!

sounds like you married him just for his cows

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If you must know...I am trying to kill him in this regard. But I don't want him to die....

killing him with kisses

are you giving sexual favors to meta violetta? are you babu? he sees teets all day.

Actually, it is said that men having a satisfactory sex life actually live longer and stay healthy for longer than those living in sexually unsatisfying relationships or without a partner. So we shouldn't be too anxious.

But if the wife cuts her hair...

Tortoises live for hundreds of years – what's the point?

I don't think it is how long you are in that body – I believe it is how much you enjoy the ride.

And I am not only referring to sex.

Anxious about living a long time or for having good sex?

this man may have practiced manual stimulation also known as auto-eroticism

or enjoy getting ridden

A person addicted to something find that when that something is taken from him/her, life looses its meaning. The only funny thing that there are many such addictions, and all individually can have such power over a person, that living without it is not worth it. Sex is one of them. Maybe the strongest, although gamblers say that gambling is more addictive and gives more thrill than sex. And maybe it is like that, since sex initself is not as satisfying, but is always combined with something else. In particular drugs, control and violence. Just like the other thing is the more value, and sex is just like a spice.

Ok, an informal quiz. What is more important, freedom or sex?
Is it better to live in freedom without sex, or live in a cage, but with unlimited sex?

Desire for sex, hetero or homo, means being engaged as a servant of sensual impulse, it cannot be called one’s free will, just a reaction to sensual association. If freedom means freedom from death and entrance into God’s eternal lila, and if by renunciation of sex this is what occurs then this is best. But that energy of sex could go to another material desire, which is usual. Sometimes sexual desire is called the perversion of love of God, so freedom means being free of being the senses’ servant in any way and mere renunciation of sex cannot guarantee this, but it is a clear sign of willingness to engage in God’s eternal service. Freedom is what we all really desire but the cage we’re in is cleverly and mystically designed.
(I’m a philosopher this morning but I have to go work in another cage, created only by my initial desire for sex)

QUOTE (Prisni @ Feb 27 2007, 10:12 AM)

QUOTE (Tapati @ Feb 25 2007, 11:49 PM)

On the other hand, if you can't have sex for years and years, how long would you retain the will to live?

A person addicted to something find that when that something is taken from him/her, life looses its meaning. The only funny thing that there are many such addictions, and all individually can have such power over a person, that living without it is not worth it. Sex is one of them. Maybe the strongest, although gamblers say that gambling is more addictive and gives more thrill than sex. And maybe it is like that, since sex initself is not as satisfying, but is always combined with something else. In particular drugs, control and violence. Just like the other thing is the more value, and sex is just like a spice.

Ok, an informal quiz. What is more important, freedom or sex?
Is it better to live in freedom without sex, or live in a cage, but with unlimited sex?

Just filling the void. Personally, I think this "void" is not what it looks like. It is spaciousness. Filling it with addictions, feverish ambitions or religious fanaticism is not the proper way to deal with the "void", which it is not.

I do not understand your quiz. Both alternatives suck, but I prefer freedom. Desire for sex diminishes in due course of time, automatically, especially if you get the opportunity to have some. Therefore I am sometimes amazed when I hear about an old sannyasi or brahmacari trying to get some. It seems that they have some unfinished business to do.

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A person's libido is intrinsically tied up with their being.
Often, low libido can be a symptom of ill-health, low self-esteem or depression.
I'm not impressed with renunciation for it's own sake.
I dislike dissecting everything into seperate parts instead of as a part of relationship.
Renunciation can make the heart hard. I'm profoundly unimpressed by most of the sannyass order.
That "sexual desire is ... the perversion of love of God" is a great recipe for unmitigated guilt and ensuing madness.

am wondering if this qualifies for an "ass" avatara???

Eyore from Winnie the Pooh?

Any sect, the fundamentals of which insist that its adherents follow a complicated system of sexual behaviour for procreation, or insist on abstinence will tend to die out as those who strictly follow the "rules" won't be able to procreate sucessfully owing to the tensions that exist, and those who cannot follow the rules will leave or remain on the fringes.

History is littered with such sects. The Shakers for example rely on recruiting new members to maintain or grow numbers as sexual relationships are frowned on. The Essenes were, according to Flavius Josephus, similar in their aversion to sex and had a requirement to recruit new members as "breeding" was essentially forbidden.

It seems to me that the ISKCON/GM style of GV along with other similar "puritanical" religious groupings of whatever origin are doomed to extinction or to remain the preserve of a very small minority of fundamentalist supporters relying on new recruits to keep the numbers up as adherents realise that it is not possible to follow the teachings in their day to day lives and leave or remain on the fringes.

I find it an amusing paradox that many of these religious groupings however extol the sexual act in some of their literature in a way that to me suggests that the "advanced" or "exalted" actually enjoy reading what some might term pornography and indulging in "mental masturbation" as a release for the sexual tensions that exist in them personally. This material is usually "reserved" for those who have developed a "higher" taste and is not suitable for those who are less "advanced" as they willl not understand it.

Having probably offended about half the people here I think it is time to duck and run for cover...

Libido is a thing of the body. The soul enjoys libido since it brings sex pleasure. And for a soul addicted to that feeling, loss of libido can be worse the loss of life. But for a devotee, libido is just an annoyance. For such a person, renounciation is possible, and is a relief from material pushings. Some persons have almost no libido. For a materialist, that is a sick or hellish condition, but for a devotee it is a blessing. The only aber is that when you don't have libido, you wonder what you are doing in this world, since material life looses much of its meaning. Maybe it is a rare state to enjoy that, and if it is a sign of spiritual advancement, well so be it.
Of course, a person who is very much austere and always fights against his libido, can be glorified like a great warrior and worshiped as a great renounciant. An enjoyable condition and maybe we should redefine "the last snare of maya" to that condition. Such a person does not want to loose his libido, since it would end his renounciation and his glorification. So he will make it a philosophy how it is great and spiritual to have a lot of libido and constantly fight with it.
Libido is like a salve that is put into the eyes of the soul, that makes life in this world worthwhile and desirable.

The renunciation might serve to heighten the intensity of the experience.

If I can allow myself to look at the issue from a reductionist angle (fully agreeing that there are other angles too)... I believe that some people just get into erotically charged ecstasies right away. The holy fear just doesn't enter their hearts, it's not their disposition. While others, of a more managerial disposition, get worried that this might disrupt the social and religious order, and construct the notions like "this is only for the advanced ones" as an attempt at damage control.

Once one asks oneself: "Am I qualified?" one will never be.

Well as a an openly gay man descriptions of heterosexual sex are of no interest to me anyway... I could say they leave me cold....no attraction or interest whatsoever.

Yes.

That makes three members who believe it qualifies.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20527961-1702,00.html


Coffee, cigars, sex 'behind longevity'
From correspondents in Havana
October 05, 2006 04:33am

CUBA'S high number of centenarians said their longevity is a result of going easy on alcohol, but indulging in coffee, cigars and sex, according to a survey released today.
Cuba, with a population of 11.2 million, has about 3000 people who have lived more than a century.
A study was carried out of 54 of the more than 100 centenarians who live in Santa Clara province, which has Cuba's highest average age, by Professor Nancy Nepomucemo.
The results were reported to the National Geriatrics and Social Work workshop, according to the newspaper Juventud Rebelde.
Their lives are disciplined, the study found, yet not austere - none was alcoholic, and they expressed a love for coffee and cigars.
They maintained a strong interest in their sex lives and other topics, the study said.
Most of the super-seniors were mentally alert, do manual labour in rural areas, and 60 per cent said their parents also were long-lived.
Ninety-five per cent ate a diet including fish, eggs, milk, white meat, vegetables, and manioc, which they cook with little salt and natural seasonings.

This was said with tongue firmly in cheek.

Whether one chooses to have lots of sex or none, the important thing is not the sex or lack thereof, but the consciousness behind it. One can abstain but be completely preoccupied with it, one can abstain naturally because of a low libido or the aging process naturally bringing one to that state, or one can have lots of sex out of a sense of emptiness or void, seeking those love chemicals for the high they offer, or one can engage in sex as a sacred act expressing one's love for one's self or other(s). It's all about the consciousness.

And we're always free to determine our consciousness.

Krishna is surrounded by his loving cowherd boys, as well with his loving cowherd girls. Has not anyone pondered what kind of love is between Krishna and his gopas?
And Radha is surrounded by her intimate girlfriends.

Everything is filtered through culture, and allows or disallows certain descriptions.
The whole idea with the different rasas is that all kinds of different relationships are there.
As compared with religions where God is the father, and that is the only relationship there is. Some are trying to make Gaudiya Vaisnavism into such a religion, possibly due to limited imagination and being strictly bound by their own culture.

Please, pretty please, Gaudiya Vaisnavism is not heterosexual. In one way it is not sexual at all, in other ways spiritually polyamourous. The non-sexual aspect is that in the spiritual existence, no one have material bodies, and no material sexual organs to enjoy sex with. The spiritual aspect is that it is love without being bound by material sex. Everything is possible, only that if it needs genitals of a material body, it goes on in the material sphere.

The Gaudiya Vaisnava philosophy is that the material sphere is also spiritual. Let's call it spiritual with sex using material genitals, as opposed to spiritual without

Well I did ask an ISKCON guru about Krishna and the cowherd boys ..... ooops!!! BIG MISTAKE!!! LOL

Talk about foaming at the mouth - these gurus really must have dirty minds!

Just reject such a guru, and find another guru that tell you more about what you want to know. I heard very little about the relationship between Krishna and the gopas, when I was in ISKCON. It was like the whole subject matter was a taboo.
To think that one sexual relationship is superior than the other, is nothing but cultural luggage.

Some Darwin here. Programmed into the human bodies is the desire to reproduce and multiply. That programming might favour heterosexual relationships, just because it favours multiplication and spreading of the genes. As such it can quite easily be seen as pertaining to the body.

the problem is that by putting your tongue in someones cheeks you are loosing your chances to be religious, unless you do it as a regular sadhana.

I did not hear the thunderous appause you last two post warranted, but what you have said here is the most liberal, in accordance with the spirit of scripture, and universal writing on the subject of bodily sex I have heard in a long time. Also rejection of such false Guru, raises the question of real Guru. Thanks for the post.

a real guru humps and doesn't feel guilty