QUOTE (angrezi @ Jan 23 2007, 12:46 AM)
But I love this question because it is such an unknown. The ultimate unknown in fact. If somebody did infact know what if anything was beyond death, most people would not believe them either way, so it remains the burden (or the bliss) of the individual. Which is how we have to live our daily lives anyway. That said I would probably drink more and expose myself in public occaisionally if I don't have to be judged by jesus.
What you say is interesting, since if in fact what happens after "death" was known, and yet the answer cannot be accepted, it would be an unacceptable fact. Maybe many persons know, but as long as we can't accept, we would never know.
Then what would be the way to knowing?
I actually often wonder how and what religious people actually know. Maybe everyone who have been in ISKCON knows the art of believing something that we don't know, but what if some persons actually are beyond that stage, and are not dogmatic fanatic believers, but actually "know" in the same way as we know anything?
Would we believe them?
And who would it be?
Thinking that way, you start to wonder - what is "knowing" actually? Is "knowing" ever anything more than strong belief, faith? What if some alien came one day, proved our mathematic all wrong, and said that pi
actually is 4. How would that affect our "knowing"? We assume so many thing, and are using self-referring systems. And from that we say that we know for sure. But what more do we know than the self-referring system?
Is ISKCON anything more than a self-referring system?
Maybe they are as convinced and know with the same certainty that we know that the relation between the circumference and diamater of a circle is 3.1415....?
And then the big thought. If the universe is seen as a self-referring system, what is actually truth?
Actually, the relation between a circle, drawn on the ground, and the diameter of it, is not exactly pi
, since the earth is a sphere, and that relationship does not hold for circles drawn on spheres, only on flat surfaces.
What does that say about our knowing?