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babu
crocodile hunter of krishna,
delivering the world of imp-personalism towards wild animals
in your grace, we jumped with the joy of kangaroos
and now that you have left,
with the poise and purpose you have left in your wake
we wholeheartedly embrace environmentalism and ecological perspectives

steve irwin ki jaya!
metamorphosis
final moments
babu
that's incredible footage meta... i thought the family was going to keep the video private but i guess they decided to release it
violeta
Steve...you will be missed sad.gif
Preyobrazhenya
I guess I am really "out of it." I have no idea who this guy is and why everyone is upset. Did he have a regular TV program? Still, it's sad that he got killed by a stingray.
Tapati
QUOTE (Preyobrazhenya @ Sep 10 2006, 10:28 AM)
I guess I am really "out of it."  I have no idea who this guy is and why everyone is upset.  Did he have a regular TV program?  Still, it's sad that he got killed by a stingray.
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Yes, he was well known and has been on tv quite a bit. Kids are really devastated right now and some young adults who had been watching him for years. He was known for his great sense of humor (about himself as much as anything) and his risk taking behaviors with dangerous animals, in particular crocs and alligators. If you think back to some of the nature shows like wild kingdom from our childhoods, imagine if one of those stars had had a charismatic personality and took big risks, then died one day on the job. It's like that. I guess I felt the same kind of sadness when Captain Kangaroo died.

Jay Leno put together a nice tribute from clips of appearances on The Tonight Show.
babu
QUOTE (Preyobrazhenya @ Sep 10 2006, 02:28 PM)
I guess I am really "out of it."  I have no idea who this guy is and why everyone is upset.  Did he have a regular TV program?  Still, it's sad that he got killed by a stingray.
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crikey! you never heard of steve irwin?
Preyobrazhenya
QUOTE (babu @ Sep 10 2006, 07:15 PM)
QUOTE (Preyobrazhenya @ Sep 10 2006, 02:28 PM)
I guess I am really "out of it."  I have no idea who this guy is and why everyone is upset.  Did he have a regular TV program?  Still, it's sad that he got killed by a stingray.
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crikey! you never heard of steve irwin?
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Nope - but I guess I have now. Too bad it is only at his passing. I guess he was pretty amazing.

When people talk about television shows, I am completely clueless. Friends - never seen it. Seinfeld - one episode. And these are even old shows. It's not that I dislike audio-visual programs, in fact I love it, it's just that I hate commercials so much that I can't bear to watch.

Speaking of tv, my girlfriend just called from Montreal to bitch that all the stations have nothing but 911 specials showing. She said she feels like an American tonight (and that said with a tinge of disgust as she is a fiercely proud Canuck).
Brainiac
I'm really enjoying the 9/11 stuff that is being broadcast right now.
babu
QUOTE (Brainiac @ Sep 10 2006, 10:24 PM)
I'm really enjoying the 9/11 stuff that is being broadcast right now.
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i was watching the comedy channel tribute to rodney dandgerfield but i got feeling when it was over that i should do something patriotic and watch some of the 911 specials and so i did
rhapsodieff
QUOTE (babu @ Sep 13 2006, 02:48 AM)
QUOTE (Brainiac @ Sep 10 2006, 10:24 PM)
I'm really enjoying the 9/11 stuff that is being broadcast right now.
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i was watching the comedy channel tribute to rodney dandgerfield but i got feeling when it was over that i should do something patriotic and watch some of the 911 specials and so i did
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Not knowing who this person was I actually watched television to find out. What I saw filled me with little sympathy. If you tease dangerous wild animals, failing to give them respect, to prove how butch and macho you are you deserve everything you get....I would not treat my cats the way he behaved towards crocodiles and doubtless did to the stingray, if I did I am sure they would scratch and bite.
metamorphosis
Australian Stingrays Killed After Steve Irwin's Death
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The conservationist would be ``absolutely shocked'' if people had killed stingrays to avenge his death, Stainton said. ``The one thing you don't do is go out and kill wildlife because it may have hurt or maimed somebody,'' he told ABC radio. ``They're turning one tragedy into another.''
Kalisurfer
QUOTE (metamorphosis @ Sep 13 2006, 06:21 AM)

I remember watching Steve Irwin a few times on TV and was kind of turned off by his macho frat boy mentality when working with animals. It was all about man being the controller over the animal kingdom, though he did try to teach respect about their habitat. He was a charismatic character, had this rough out of control but lovable Aussie air about him, came across as a regular guy whose passion was wild animals, so I can see why he was popular, especially among kids. But there was also this exploitive quality about it all, poking sticks into snake nests, getting one to attach itself to the stick, then twirling it around to agitate the snake, make it want to bite him, yee-haaa, good ole boy stuff that can also send a message to kids that it was ok to go out and mess around with wild animals. He was a risk taker and it made pretty thrilling television, having large croc’s coming after him as he went splashing around the fake pond they lived by in the zoo.

It’s probably not cool to disrespect him now that he is tragically dead, and I am sure he did good work in terms of raising awareness about endangered species, but his MTV-JackAss Reality TV mode of working with animals may have sent a message to kids that it was ok to harass and tease animals in the wild in order to get a hip response like Steve did. Is it any coincidence that a week after his death, dead stingrays have been washing up on Australian beaches with their stingers cut off?

I do feel for his family and friends though, loosing a husband, dad, son or brother at a somewhat young age is a tough thing to deal with.
Tapati
While I do have to agree that Steve went overboard when agitating dangerous animals, I think there was a method to his madness. I think he was very clever in assessing what would sell on tv in order to get his message of conservation to spread. There have been many boring nature shows where a droning narrator put us all to sleep and only people who already loved animals bothered to watch them. Along comes Steve Irwin and he captivates the audience and makes them root for the animals and want to see the various animal species survive.

He wasn't, however, agitating the stingray. It really was a freak accident.
violeta
QUOTE (Tapati @ Sep 13 2006, 05:48 PM)
While I do have to agree that Steve went overboard when agitating dangerous animals, I think there was a method to his madness. I think he was very clever in assessing what would sell on tv in order to get his message of conservation to spread. There have been many boring nature shows where a droning narrator put us all to sleep and only people who already loved animals bothered to watch them. Along comes Steve Irwin and he captivates the audience and makes them root for the animals and want to see the various animal species survive.

He wasn't, however, agitating the stingray. It really was a freak accident.
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Thanks Tapati. I think people misunderstand Steve. I knew that people would have this, "I don't feel sorry for him, he had it coming" attitude. But what they don't realise is how much awareness he raised and the good he did. He used to rescue crocodiles from areas where they would be killed by people to less populated areas. He would remove snakes and relocate them from faimily yards. Other people would just kill the pests.

So he aggrivated a few snakes and what not. He didn't harm them, he tried his best to protect them.
Kalisurfer
QUOTE (violeta @ Sep 13 2006, 07:13 PM)
I knew that people would have this, "I don't feel sorry for him, he had it coming" attitude.  But what they don't realise is how much awareness he raised and the good he did.  He used to rescue crocodiles from areas where they would be killed by people to less populated areas.  He would remove snakes and relocate them from faimily yards.  Other people would just kill the pests. 
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My post was critical of his style of showmanship but I never implied he got what was coming to him, not sure how you got that from the two posts here that were critical. I felt bad when I heard he died the way he did, and I understand why you and so many others really liked him. I’m glad for all the good he did, which is probably more than many of his critics actually do to help the animal kingdom. Perhaps it was too soon to criticize him, it being so close to his death, but I do think he also put into the publics consciousness the idea that it was ok to go into nature and tease animals in order to get a response from them, which I think is unnecessary, though better that then hunting them for sheer pleasure.
violeta
Kalisurfer: worship.gif

Thanks for your post. I didn't mean to single you out. It was a general statement. I think a lot of people who have seen him in passing just think he's some crazy guy that annoyed animals for good tv. I just wanted to point out that many of these people don't know the good things that he has done for wildlife.
Kalisurfer
QUOTE (violeta @ Sep 14 2006, 04:33 PM)
Kalisurfer: worship.gif

Thanks for your post.  I didn't mean to single you out.  It was a general statement.  I think a lot of people who have seen him in passing just think he's some crazy guy that annoyed animals for good tv.  I just wanted to point out that many of these people don't know the good things that he has done for wildlife.
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Violeta, your explanations of Steve Irwin helped me understand more deeply why he was liked so much and also about the good things he did for animal awareness, so thanks for that!!! redflwr.gif
Kalisurfer
Cousteau: Irwin's tactics 'misleading'

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

LOS ANGELES -- Marine explorer Jean-Michel Cousteau said Tuesday that while he mourns the recent death of "The Crocodile Hunter," Steve Irwin, he disagrees with Irwin's hands-on approach to nature television.

While promoting his new two-part TV special, "Jean-Michel Cousteau: Ocean Adventures - America's Underwater Treasures," Cousteau called Irwin's death "very, very unfortunate."

He had "a lot of respect" for Irwin, who he didn't know personally, and his "environmental message," Cousteau said.

But, he added, Irwin would "interfere with nature, jump on animals, grab them, hold them, and have this very, very spectacular, dramatic way of presenting things. Of course, it goes very well on television. It sells, it appeals to a lot people, but I think it's very misleading. You don't touch nature, you just look at it. And that's why I'm still alive. I've been diving over 61 years - a lot many more years that he's been alive - and I don't mess with nature."

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/tv/1401AP_Pe...teau_Irwin.html
rhapsodieff
Well said Jacques - one of my heros from childhood along with Armand and Micheala Denis. The big wildlife presenter in the UK is David Attenborough or as some people characterise him "the whispering attenbore" But some of the footage he cooments on you too would whisper in awe looking at it.
metamorphosis
Celebrities cry for Steve Irwin

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Some of the world's biggest celebrities came close to tears and told of their admiration for Steve Irwin during emotional video tributes at his memorial service today.


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Crocodile Hunter Irwin remembered at public memorial

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The young daughter of "Crocodile Hunter" Steve Irwin paid tribute to her famous father Wednesday, calling him "my hero" at a public memorial in Australia.................................."I don't want daddy's passion to ever end," eight-year-old Bindi Irwin told the gathering at the zoo her father helped make famous. "I want to help endangered wildlife just like he did. I had the best daddy in the whole world and I will miss him every day.

"When I see a crocodile I will always think of him and I know that daddy made this zoo so that everyone could come and learn to love all the animals.

"Daddy made this place his whole life, now it's our turn to help daddy."
metamorphosis
Did you know that he died? Jimi Hendrix too! crying.gif

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metamorphosis
"Bindi the Jungle Girl,"

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In 'Jungle Girl,' engaging Bindi keeps the Irwin name alive
By Joanna Weiss, Globe Staff  |  June 16, 2007

It was apparently decided long ago that Bindi Irwin, a crimp-haired 8-year-old from Australia, would be a prominent part of her father's "Crocodile Hunter" television empire. Plans for "Bindi the Jungle Girl," a children's wildlife show on Discovery Kids, were underway well before Steve Irwin was killed by a stingray in September. He had been filming portions of the show, climbing trees with orangutans and posing with his daughter beside a gorilla skull on the treehouse set.

So by the time the voice-overs were recorded, another decision was made: to keep Irwin alive for the purposes of children's TV. In this series, which airs Saturdays at 5 p.m., Bindi always refers to her father in present tense, as in, "Just like me, my dad loves pandas!" She perches on his shoulders and talks cheerfully about his handling of dangerous beasts. It's like Natalie Cole, singing duets with her father. Or Ted Williams' head, awaiting resurrection as his children look on proudly.


Bindi's tribute to her dad.
Padmini
Bindi's grandfather taught Steve, her father to hunt crocodiles. When Steve died his wife, Bindi's mother, said if she had to do it all over again she would. When are these people going to learn not to play with dangerous creatures in order to make money and be famous? After Bindi becomes lunch for one of her animal friends? What will her American mother say then? "I'm glad she died being lunch for one of the animals she loved."?
Even Steve joked that they always told him one day one of the crocks would get him, and he himself thought it was more dangerous in the water.
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