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[Subhash]

O.K. brace yourself for a geeky indulgence in indie opinion.I used to really love Belle and Sebastian. I wouldnt say they went wrong after if youre.... I bought their first four albums(and 7 e.ps), three and a half of which (Fold your hands..., from 2000 is evenly divided between brilliant and poor) I love still. Stuart Murdochs voice is one of the few male voices i love, along with Nick Drake. They also did a very pretty sigur ros style Soundtrack, almost entirely instrumental and acoustic. Its only the last album which is truly awful.

I like the melancholy tone its the perfect soundtrack to a rainy walk in the park when you know you should be doing something more productive, like Satie or Nick Drake. And i like the mundanity of a lot of the lyrics, and admitiing that's he's somone who wants to write sad songs, but can't make his sadness interesting enough. I went to see what i thought was a band member DJing at the local art cinema/gallery bar, but it turned out to be an 'Aftershow Party' (they'd just finished a concert). I found it an odd concept, that this bar would basically advertise 'come to this bar and gawk at the famous people' When i went to get a drink, which took ten minutes, i realised the singer was right next to me at the bar. This middle aged women came over and asked for an autograph for her daughter, and he looked really embarrassed and hurriedly obliged. I thought it was sweet that he still obviously didn't know how to react, so hopefully theyve not lost touch with everyday life after all.
some of my favourites

We Rule The School
Do something pretty while you can
Don't fall asleep
Skating a pirouette on ice is cool

Do something pretty while you can
Don't be a fool
Reading the Gospel to yourself is fine

On a bus stop in the town
"We Rule The School"
Written for anyone to read and to see

On a bus stop in the town
"We Rule The School"
Written for anyone with eyes in their heads

Do something pretty while you can
Don't fall asleep
Writing from California to New York

Rhoda
Young girl, she's a simple person
Not as young as she looks
But whoever is in this day and age
In this day and age, yeah

She gives me goosebumps, fits and malaria
Funny feeling like buying whisky in a whisky bar
The things she says
Yeah the the things she says

And on her arm there's freckles and scars
Do you know what they are?
Do you know where they came from?
Wondering, 'cause she wouldn't tell me


She likes to sing a lot, she likes to play a lot
But it hurts her so she gave it up for medicinal drugs
Now she's really happy


And she is happy with a fag in her lips
And a faggot friend
And a fag in the morning with her Special K
A ray of sunshine

You made me forget my dreams

You made me forget my dreams
When I woke up to you sleeping
We had peace for a night at least
But the trouble starts today
This morning you'll say
"I'll see you sometime, maybe" and I
Fall back to uneasy sleep

You made me forget my dreams
I was building a space rocket
With the boy who played bass guitar
With the boy who's wearing flares
He didn't care
He lit the fuse and ran for a mile
The space rocket went up in style

I'll lend you two hundred quid
For a flight across the ocean
Maybe things will look better there
Because they couldn't be much worse
Than tears and a curse
For men with guns, maturing in age
Will always pay a shitty wage
They'll always pay a shitty wage

You made me forget my dreams
When I woke up to you sleeping
There was blood on the sheets again
And the view outside the window
Of gardens in bloom
Obscured by all the trouble we had
I think I better make a move
I think I better make a move

This post has been edited by Subhash: Mar 1 2006, 06:55 AM

[evakurvan]

Yeah Belle and Sebastian have become very overproduced and commercial, but what's worse is the deterioration of their lyrics- it's like Woody Allen- in the begginning his films were warm and spontaenous because they were about his life, but now there's none of that intimacy, because he's become caught up in being a filmaker as his life, a cheesy awareness of what's expected.

This is not exactly the same like what you are saying but one marker of when I know a group is usually going down is when they start to whine about being famous in their songs. It is true once people get famous and then start talking too much about the act of being famous in their songs then this usually ruins their songs most of the time. I think this is why I could never get into In Utero because of all those cheesy lines about being bitter over being famous.

Then again, that is their life now, being famous, so they are just talking about that, just like they talked about their life before. Except for some reason I find this boring. And you will see this marks the threshhold of when songwriters go down in their song writing. But some people can get away with singing about how being famous sucks, and it is still good. For that I have as an example (again), my pitiful, embarassing, Conor Oberst:


On a string
On a string
on a string
I was held
The way I moved, can you tell

And so I swing and I sway
Wave my hand, kick my leg
And it's always right with the music
(till all that swaying starts to make you sick)

For a song, I was bought
Now I lie, when I talk
With a careful eye on the cue card

Onto a stage, I was pushed
With my sorrow well rehearsed
So give me all your pity and your money now
All of it.

(we used to think that sound was something true)

But if I could act like this was my real life
And not just some stage where I've been placed
Well then I could tell you
The truth like I used to
And not be afraid of sounding fake

(sorry)


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Subhash you said something i think somewhere about someone ruining leonard cohen's later records. I don't remember the name now, but if you are talking about how his later records always have these female backround vocals, I lament about that for years myself. Especially on the song 'The Guests' it is especially shameful there, how much more fantastic it would be without them. I am listening to that song right now I wish I could block out those vocals with a machine or through some miraculous feat of my own directed consternation!

This post has been edited by evakurvan: Mar 1 2006, 06:56 AM

[Subhash]

Subhash you said something i think somewhere about someone ruining leonard cohen's later records. I don't remember the name now, but if you are talking about how his later records always have these female backround vocals, I lament about that for years myself. Especially on the song 'The Guests' it is especially shameful there, how much more fantastic it would be without them. I am listening to that song right now I wish I could block out those vocals with a machine or through some miraculous feat of my own directed consternation!

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I was talking about Phil Spector, who ruined 'death of a ladies man' by filling ever verse with ululating female vocals, string/brass orchestras with twenty jazzy piccolos playing the same note e.t.c. which is a shame beacause all those songs are particularly subtle and intimate. I dont like the backing vocals most of the time, but it doesn't irritate me that much when everything else production wise is perfect as in the guests. I actually think you might be able to listen to it wihout those vocals. Pay heed everyone who gets irritated by individual instrumental parts in songs. When my hifi broke, i hooked up my walkman directly to my speakers, by stuffing the loose copper wires into the headphone socket. I found out that if you fiddle about with it, it'll only play one channel. I was so happy to be able to listen to Nick Drakes Time Has told Me without the cheesy electric Guitar. Try it out!

[evakurvan]

Time Has Told Me is a fantastic song - for sure one of the top male voices - Nick Drake. Also something in Stuart's voice reminds me of Nick Drake, like in the pre-chorus of Stars of Track and Field, this gentle rasp. I like a lot the way Nick Drake sings and the lyrics in the song Black Eyed Dog, what a creepy suggestive song. Probably my Nick Drake favourite. And you can not get any more minimalist than that.

I listened to those camera obscura songs. I used to listen to similar music, then reached a point i could not listen to such music anymore and whatever other music in that genre came out seemed imitatitive and tepid. You can say maybe the point is to express tepidity, but i am just not feeling it. so i am biased unable to enjoy such songs unless they really stand out somehow. Instead they usually feel lukewarm and become white noise. There seems to have been an explosion in this kind of music, behind every loud indie band you can bet there lies a band of sappy solo artists waiting to come out. I think the pinnacle of songs in that mood you can find for example in songs like Digging by Mia Doi Todd.

And i like the mundanity of a lot of the lyrics, and admitiing that's he's somone who wants to write sad songs, but can't make his sadness interesting enough.

hahaha

[0Aran0]

ya wee lowland scamp.

My is in the Highlands.

[0Aran0]

.... so yes it is true even though celtic tatoos are dorky here is one reason to dig the scottish people.

Well, Eva, it is encouraging to see that someone such as yourself, a descendant of the great land of Greece (which after all, invented Civilisation), recognises that some of us Scots may possess human(like) qualities.

Tatoos in Scotland go back (at least) to the Picts (so-called by the Romans (those other great civilisers) due to the fact that they painted patterns on themselves before battle; which they would execute naked).

Here's a photo of some of my pals out for a stroll in the Scottish countryside - one of them has spotted a Roman.

[evakurvan]

i just like to make fun of white people because they are, in fact, my oppressors!

here is one true fact i like to say to proud celtic revivalists when they cross my path to stir trouble: when my people were composing great literature like odyssey and illyad your people were still hitting eachother on the head with sticks!

Then we all have a jolly laugh.

Well, Eva, it is encouraging to see that someone such as yourself, a descendant of the great land of Greece, (which after all, invented Civilisation) recognises that some of us Scots may possess human(like) qualities.

you know i used to get into fights about the textbook when i was a kid because it said in it: "greece invented philosophy" and we were supposed to memorize that for tests, and i was like, (but india had philosophy before),"why is the textbook lying!!"

[0Aran0]

i just like to make fun of white people because they are, in fact, my oppressors!

here is one true fact i like to say to celtic revivalists when they cross my path to stir trouble: when my people were writing odyssey and illyad your people were still hitting eachother on the head with sticks in caves!

Then we all have a jolly laugh.

Well, Eva, it is encouraging to see that someone such as yourself, a descendant of the great land of Greece, (which after all, invented Civilisation) recognises that some of us Scots may possess human(like) qualities.

you know i used to get into fights about the textbook when i was a kid because it said in it: greece invented civilization and philosophy and we were supposed to memorize that for tests, and i was like, but india had philosophy before, why is the textbook lying!

I'm not sure what a Celtic Revivalist is; as I indicated in those earlier posts to you (in which I unfortunately resorted to my tribal roots and descended to brandishing a stick), for many, many people in Scotland and Eire who have always spoke Gaelic, and lived close to tradition, such notions seem a bit patronising; maybe it's a North American thing ?

[evakurvan]

this is just my name for people who are out to discover their true celtic roots before others raped, whitewashed, and hung out their heritage to dry.

there were all sorts of bad things done for example the british actually payed
money to the starving irish poor so they don't teach their children irish! you probably have more stories...

believe it or not, since our celtic battles on this forum, my sister had a kid, and she is so into scotland, she even named her kid after some scottish medieval freedom fighter, i can't believe it. i don't know where this is coming from but i am going to blame it on the movie braveheart.

[0Aran0]

this is just my name for people who are out to discover their true celtic roots before others raped, whitewashed, and hung out their heritage to dry.

there were all sorts of bad things done for example the british actually payed
money to the starving irish poor so they don't teach their children irish! you probably have more stories...

believe it or not, since our celtic battles on this forum, my sister had a kid, and she is so into scotland, she even named her kid after some scottish medieval freedom fighter, i can't believe it. i don't know where this is coming from but i am going to blame it on the movie braveheart.

What's the name - which freedom fighter ?

[angrezi]

dont worry, they say in 100 years 90% of languages today will be lost. I think humans will all merge into one race/ethnicity by the next millenia unless we blow up large portions of the earth, making intermarriage difficult.

[evakurvan]

william which she says is specifically to honour scotland bravery! she is thinking william wallace.

i don't know why she had to look to scotland for bravery, my own people the spartans are the ultimate freedom fighters, who even INVENTED the slogan, freedom or death, which i'm sure that mel gibson copied from them in his heroic cry which is the ONLY good part of that movie. Spartans save the day as usual.

Look at this that I found on google:

Latest News - "Braveheart" is still knocking them dead!
According to a report on 28 October 1999 on the BBC/NPR radio program "The World", the freedom fighters in Chechnya are fans of the film "Braveheart". When the film came out four years ago, apparently, it made an enormous impact in Chechnya, and the video is still circulating and is still inspiring young men to "FREEDOMMMMMMM!!!!"

haha

from this website tribute to braveheart, whose tributeer decided to call his url: 'magic dragon.'

Where you can also find true facts like this:

" Mel said he was attracted to Wallace's "dichotomy. He was heroic, but he didn't seek self-aggrandizement. He didn't want a crown, he didn't want land. He was just doing it because he wanted his country to be free. At the same time, he was a savage. When he won the battle at Stirling, he got the commanding officer and skinned him and made a belt out of him."

now that is what i call maximum rock n roll.

[0Aran0]

he got the commanding officer and skinned him and made a belt out of him."

This sort of thing still goes on every weekend in Glasgow city centre.

[0Aran0]

now that is what i call maximum rock n roll.

I think Wallace would have loved The Stooges.

[evakurvan]

i said to my sister why are you naming your kid after a vicious killer, plus, you are not white, stop trying to be white, you sellout!!

but william is only one name, the kid is also born on the day john lennon was shot, and the other name is john. so i said you are going to give this kid a schizoid split. On the one hand named after a rampaging hoodlum of war, on the other a dorky pacifist with glasses. Then she says 'yes! that is what is interesting, the dichotomy!'

Clearly with all this popularity of simultaneous dichotmies, she is vibing on the groove of magic dragon, ramakrishna, kabir, and luminaries like osho, all in one plot. You are right Subhash this pop shmorgasbordering is out of control not only in the neo-zen but with braveheart lovers too!! It could be that since battles are now fought not on the land but through computer keyboards, (on this forum and in the Pentagon), the New Brave is about just how many things that you can withstand in your stomach without purging.

Yes I think Ayyapan's gang of wild wolves would like The Stooges too. I dedicate to those dogs, right now, the best Stooges song: I Want To Be Your Dog. Admit the jangling repetitive chyming bells in this song remind you of the hare krishnas. No doubt it is songs like this that trained me up right for krishna.

[Ayyapan]

Yes I think Ayyapan's gang of wild wolves would like The Stooges too. I dedicate to those dogs, right now, the best Stooges song: I Want To Be Your Dog. Admit  the jangling repetitive chyming bells in this song remind you of the hare krishnas. No doubt it is songs like this that trained me up right for krishna.

Daniel and the others ask me to convey their thanks. They feel very honoured.

The song is unknown to us - so far, but we will check it out for sure!

My dogs all - and especially the small puppies - love that Hobo song! (you linked us up with) Whenever I play that song they will all come running quickly, eagerly calling out, and then stamp their small feet, and start to sing along - and howl! That song makes them very enthusiastic!

[evakurvan]

This thread started out as my dirge to duplicitous teachers. And look what have we here the topic shifts to dogs ha.

I will from now onward post lyrics exclusively related to dogs to show pony my lyric wizardry.

Hair of The Dog by Bauhaus

the man who was mortally wounded in war kept on fighting
the man who was cut to the quick by love kept on loving
the man who was mercilessly tortured by thoughts kept on thinking
the man who was crippled with concern kept on caring kept on caring

hair of the dog
hair of the dog
hair of the dog that turned
hair of the dog

the man whose eyes were sore from obscenities kept on looking
the man whose heart bled, killed by compassion kept on feeling
the man whose legs buckled under exertion kept on running
the man whose ears rang with the sound of his own name kept on listening

hair of the dog
hair of the dog
hair of the dog that turned
hair of the dog

[Ayyapan]

This thread started out as my dirge to duplicitous teachers. And look what have we here the topic shifts to dogs ha.

Or... maybe the dog topic has been there all the time - underneath the surface of it all?

- Dog is the essence of everything!

If you don't serve Dog you'll end up serving duplicitious teachers. And then...

Back home, back to Dog - after freeing oneself from the illusory bounds to duplicitious teachers!

Jay Doggy-dev!

[Ayyapan]

dogs to show pony

I'll tell you - Ida (my Grand Danois) is now, at age 7 months, big like a pony! And I think, this is something to celebrate!

[Ayyapan]

Here is a picture for all your nice doggy songs, Eva.

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