Tantric Vaishnavism (Iskcon deviant style), by Sri Gaurahari das Babaji Options

[Nitaibhangra]

For those who have not yet perceived, it is Kanai ConorRyan22 (pictured above) who rules the cult..

It looks like he may be moving on from all that.

View at Youtube

Wow , that was fast !

It seems that he has read my post about the statistics of DBH followers and he was ashamed to form part of the false category ...
Now at least I could realize the potency of my postings here ( just one day after my statistics , he decides to step back ) ...

Well , I think the next statistics I will make will be dealing with the GBC , the Vatican and Monsanto ...

[metamorphosis]

For those who have not yet perceived, it is Kanai ConorRyan22 (pictured above) who rules the cult..

It looks like he may be moving on from all that.

View at Youtube

Hopefully he accepts my invitation and will soon be joining us here on this forum.

Why? Do you want him to take this place over too?

[Prisni]

Hopefully he accepts my invitation and will soon be joining us here on this forum.

He did, and is a member of Gaudiya Repercussions from today.

[darwin]

Here is something I just sent to a person I had been messaging with on youtube:

Why do you list a set of accusations against David Bruce Hues and then demand I tell you if I support this? You don't even know me. I have spent years on the internet fighting against the abusers in the Hare Krishna movement. I have received death threats and could have been killed by one person who was supported by my temple authority against me. Another person tried to murder me with a coal shovel right in front of the Temple. I had forgotten about that. And you are a soldier in what's left of Hitlers army of Croatia and you are going to make moral demands on me? Listen to me fight you here. Do you think I put up with anybody abusing people? If I find out they were doing something I will be against them. You sound like a serious abuser from what you wrote. At least to me as an american. Maybe you are overrun by mafia in your country and there is no justice and no God. If so I am sorry. I hope you are strong and you will still work with me on this issue. You asked me if I fight against abuse and injustice when I find it. You are in the Army of Croatia and you can just mark Marino as a "terrorist" and "place basic controls on him" and that you "might help him out, or ruin him completely so he spends his entire life in prison." Jesus Christ dude is it really so fucked up in Croatia that you can just on your own decide to lynch a faggot? Many of us have spent years trying to bring justice to the Hare Krishna movement and fighting against attitudes like this. I showed you the picture of your "friend" Marino. Most of the pictures are of David Bruce Hues being tied up or his penis tied or pulled or bent. As far as I can tell he mostly wanted to have the S&M done to himself not others. I am still looking for evidence of something worse. I will always stand up against the abuser to defend the victim. As I have stood against you here. Do you like the way I try to tell the truth? You said "just speak the truth". Do you like knowing you have someone you can trust?

[darwin]

This topic was so beautiful. I recommend to start on page 6.

Ha ha ha, so amazing! Where did you find these pics? I want to see the x-rated ones for a laugh.

It is better to have me do it. I am in the process of editing and adding to correct his tantric errors.




And he looks just like my dad. And my god what a relief, you know. This is like the fall of the Soviet Union. The things we can do.

[Nitaibhangra]

Darwin , you seem to be getting serious about this and maybe you want to take legal actions .
Well , then I think I must get to the more serious matters :

I don´t know if any of you has seen this video by shaktipatseer :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh4ngOzsXas...feature=related

Hmmm , he is stating from 2:55 on , that DBH was about to buy a small boy from a poor family for his purposes !!
Incidentally , there is a very outspoken ex-swami ( Henry Jolicoeur - Hanuman , ACBS ) , who is interested in getting DBH into jail after getting this information . Well , he is investigating , if there exists a confirmation for this accusation .
This is his channel :
http://www.youtube.com/user/deathmeditation ( I do not agree with some of his views , but I like very much how he is after exposing guys like Bhavananda etc , and wants them to bring into jail )

You can read his comments on the video I posted :

" IF YOU FIND THAT THERE IS MINORS INVOLVE >>>OR PROOF OF BUYING A CHILD >>>>LETS GET HIM TO JAIL ..QUICK
KEEP DIGGING YOU ARE DOING AN AMAZING SERVICE .
I POSTED LINK OF YOUR VIDEO UNDER MY VIDEOS on ISKCON HOMOSEXUALITY ...INVESTIGATE IF HE AS SEXUALLY MOLESTED KIDS PLEASE LETS GET THE POLICE INVOLVE henry@sacredindia is my email I will help with whathever resource I got ...
deathmeditation vor 2 Wochen "

Another comment on a youtube-video :
" HAVE RECEIVED A EMAIL FROM tenthousandyearsgoon
...I AM POSTING IT FOR YOUR INFORMATION ...AND POLICE WORLDWILE MUST BE ADVICE (if this is not truth make a denial video DAVID .... IF PROVEN TRUTH...YOU WILL GO TO JAIL
I have heard from 3 close personal disciples of DBH that he was going to buy a young indian boy from a poor indian family. Another close disciple told me he personally witnessed them trying to engage young boy for sex. Please help this case if you can. Love to you

divinebrightlight vor 1 Woche "


In short : Shaktipatseer , tenthousandyearsgoon and Hanuman ex-Swami are the most active persons investigating for finding something to bring DBH to jail . There are others also , but it would take too much time to find out exactly what their involvement is .

[darwin]

I am open to learning something new. But so far we have a whole world of people who hate and despise DBH and company. One of them posted a youtube comment about DBH wanting to buy a child? And other youtube comments saying someone emailed accusations to them? Am I correct? But so far there is no evidence and no testimony. David Bruce Hues is only around grown men in the videos we see. I only saw women a couple times. We don't hear of him ever being around any children. And that is not even the accusation. The accusation is that he wanted to buy a child. Meanwhile all he does is hang around with grown men? All these people hate him. He can't be charged for sodomy and blasphemy and betrayal of trust but that is mostly what these videos rail against him for. Look at the climate of fear I was put through just being in contact with one of these people and learn what is going on. This is how you lynch homosexuals in this day and age.

[Nitaibhangra]

Frankly , for my part I am more interested in protecting POTENTIAL child victims ( even if it has not gone so far ) , than protecting homosexuals .

Maybe this is against political correctness and even against the consensus between some of the members here ( not all for sure ) , but isn´t it obvious that some of the most notorious vaishnava deviant child molesters are homosexuals : like Bhavananda and Kirtananda ?

And now it turns out that DBH maybe wanted to buy a child ?
Heck , with the history that vaishnava deviators have , I´d check 3 , 4 nay 5 times to see if that´s true , before DBH and his still-disciples can even look at a child boy or come near one !

More info , from here : http://dbhexposed.blogspot.com/2011/10/sho...r-disciple.html

" I clearly told him that I will help out as much as possible, but I don’t have taste for men. When he tried to force me, I told him that I thought what he was doing was is not spiritual.

But he could not handle it; he tried to force me to learn how to make these ties and participate directly by being sexually involved with him and my Godbrothers. I could never have sex with my Guru, but the other two devotees were not that strong. That is why I was out of the LionBoy project.

When I hesitated to be part of this, he was shouting and yelling and trying to force me. He said if his disciples cannot do this, then he will go to North India where he can purchase a small boy from a poor family and train him in his sex games. This reminded me on human trafficking. I couldn’t believe what my so-called Guru was saying, and my faith was losing its base more and more . "

[darwin]

I am sorry I lost focus. Back to David Bruce Hues and his masturbation dungeon. Or when I am alone laying in bed I can think. Hare Rama. Everything is ok.

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[Prisni]

If you join the asrama of a guru, and does not like what the guru does, or demands from you - just leave. That is the bottom line. The discipline of a disciple is always willingly. There are no locked doors that trap you.
It consential, and only becomes illegal when you are prohibited from leaving.
If you join a homosexual BDSM sex guru, you will be required to perform.

The only thing here. Did the BDSM sexual practices come as a surprise, or where they known or implied from the very beginning?

If you join a male guru who only have 3 regulative principles, or less, and you don't see the guru having a wife, or anyone having a wife, and no women at all, you can maybe guess what the omitted regulative principles implies. If you don't like it - leave that guru.

[Prisni]

I am sorry I lost focus. Back to David Bruce Hues and his masturbation dungeon. Or when I am alone laying in bed I can think. Hare Rama. Everything is ok.

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Do you have other rooms in your home?

[Homer]

We're still offering our Love to Lord Nṛsiṁhaḥ and He is very please that we are. As they surrender unto me I reward them accordingly.

How do you know he is pleased?

[Gerard]

Hey this is the conjugal sthāyi-bhāva place right?

I don't think so, but there is a dog here that wants to say hello

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[Homer]

Grope e Bhava?

[metamorphosis]

The adhirūdha ecstasies are explained in the Ujjvala-nīlamani (Sthāyi-bhāva-prakarana 170):

rūdhoktebhyo 'nubhāvebhyah kām apy āptā viśishtatām

yatrānubhāvā driśyante so 'dhirūdho nigadyate

However this sign is posted at the gates of Dwarka, and at the entrance to the forests of Vrndavan.....

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[Prisni]

I'm amazed how much you guys are into this or not into this as the case maybe.

Maybe it is symptoms of citra-jalpa?

[Canai]

He gave up so much to help us. He didn't have to but he reached into the ice cold waters and searched us out. Spent so much time taking us out of illusion, pulling us up on to the life raft of knowledge. But as he says himself it was the extra bonus credits he was going for, his debt to Śrīla Prabhupāda and he was looking for Lion boys. And really when you have this knowledge sitting inside your brain you just have to share it. Sharing is good. Kṛṣṇa wants us to share this and tell others how to live a proper life and learn to love Him again.

I keep starting with a powerful opening paragraph don't I and that the whole thing sortof slides off into nowhere.

What am I trying to get across?
Am I trying to express anything?
Do I have anything of any value to give?
Well yes I guess I do, seeing as I have dropped material life and am basically living every moment in the spiritual world with Lord Nṛsiṁhaḥ and His lion boys. So yes I have a lot to tell. Some wont want to hear some can't wait to hear.

The Lord loves us and we Love Him, in many different flavors. And our flavor is that of a lover. A secret lover, a dangerous lover.

Being in an ashram for three and a half years purified me enough to be able to even think of approaching Kṛṣṇa in that mood. But as time did it's thing I grew to understand my relationship more and more with the Supreme. And that relationship does not fit into your 9 to 5 schedule of “normal” love relationships. It's out there and wild, why not? What's wrong with that? We're talking about God here, Hello the Supreme enjoyer. He can do anything He wants and does.
He's not straight ,He's not bent, He is everything, He wants it all and He gets it all.

So where does that leave us?
Even while in these material bodies (which are designed as tools to serve Kṛṣṇa) let's use them to serve Kṛṣṇa and how, please tell me, can you know what it's like to serve Kṛṣṇa “that way” unless you TRY IT.

Spiritual life is practical yeah? The temple is the training ground for the spiritual world so we don't arrive there like bumbling fools out of step and out of tune. So the tantric sex workshop is a place where you can learn how to use this body to it's full potential and expand your consciousness to higher levels open energy path ways that before were always shut.

Lord Nṛsiṁhaḥ likes little boys kept to a high level of sexual stimulation to enjoy. My Spiritual Master is one of those Lion boys. I am one of those Lion boys we are here to give the Lord Sexual pleasure. Do we have any questions?

Most devotees act as if they don't exist from the waste down. Some have been known to get operations to prevent the body functioning as it was designed to. This is madness, and the sooner the jīva realizes there is a whole world down there under their kopins the better for them and Kṛṣṇa.

Vidhi bhakti is a leaf for the inch worm, you are meant to move on to the next higher leaf.

[Kalisurfer]

Lord Nṛsiṁhaḥ likes little boys kept to a high level of sexual stimulation to enjoy. My Spiritual Master is one of those Lion boys. I am one of those Lion boys we are here to give the Lord Sexual pleasure. Do we have any questions?

Sounds more like a performance art piece to provoke some type of strong visceral reaction from people here. Just as long as real little boys are left out of the action and pedophilia is not part of your game , you can do and believe as you like as an adult with other adults, but the whole spiritual dimension you speak of sounds totally made up as an excuse by a psychologically confused person posing as a guru, and using that power over others to get some personal benefit and pleasure out of. Outside of posing as a guru, this dude would never attract guys in their 20's to live with and pleasure him like some sultan of swing, the whole intimate love and worship Radha and Krsna through Prabhupada thing looks like a ruse from the outside looking in, of course it may be different for those who like to poke into the insides or swallow from out, but that's your choice as a consenting adult.

Saying that a god figure "likes little boys kept to a high level of sexual stimulation to enjoy" is criminal and screams pedophilia, not sure if you literally meant this, but I find it highly offensive to children when taken at face value.

This comes no where close to loving relationships in life we can share with intimates, be it with lovers and spouses, or even none sexual relationships one can have with family and friends. This Gaudiya tantric trip is just another diversion, more entertainment on the road of life, empty spiritual promises cloaked in the thrill of blushes and orgasms. Nothing here is new, nothing revelatory, just more same old, same old Gaudiya promises, only this time bound in leather straps and openly admitting one likes to cum for the Lord, which will entertain a few here, for indeed it is different and not on Cable presently.

[darwin]

Hey this is the conjugal sthāyi-bhāva place right?

I don't think so, but there is a dog here that wants to say hello

He looks ready to join.

[darwin]

Lord Nṛsiṁhaḥ likes little boys kept to a high level of sexual stimulation to enjoy. My Spiritual Master is one of those Lion boys. I am one of those Lion boys we are here to give the Lord Sexual pleasure. Do we have any questions?

How did Babaji learn of this aspect of Lord Nṛsiṁhaḥ? Do you think the idea that Lord Nṛsiṁhaḥ is like a lion is accurate? Isn't he more like a Siamese cat sometimes? How many devotees were involved as lion boys? Is the person who does the binding and ties the knots always considered a lion boy or can they be just an assistant? Can women be involved and were any? How young can a person be to be involved? Is one supposed to be in an adult body? Were any people under 18 involved? Some people are making it sound that way. Is this bad? Can a real cat or lion get involved? Is there chanting or music involved? Do you have any for us to hear? How does all this relate to Lord Nṛsiṁhaḥ's pastime of killing demons? What about the Lord Nṛsiṁhaḥ Temple in India? I think I heard you guys would visit there. There must be some really fun stories about how you were received there. Can Lord Nṛsiṁhaḥ be a girl lion?