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post Feb 22 2012, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE (kalki @ Feb 22 2012, 12:21 PM) *
You are really becoming quite the weasel in the same slippery way that Kali had become by twisting words around until they have no meaning whatsoever.


Kalki, perhaps you should put more of your attention on how and why you called Prisni and my husband Kalisurfer slippery weasels, rather than complaining about how that sentence has come back to haunt you. I rarely come here, but after Kalisurfer told me about not posting on GR anymore and the problems he had with you, despite spending hours writing to you, I had to see for myself what was going on here. All I can say is shame on you for calling people here weasels, so start taking some responsibility for what you say and do to others instead of constantly painting yourself as the victim.


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post Feb 22 2012, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE (Bhakti @ Feb 22 2012, 07:09 PM) *
QUOTE (kalki @ Feb 22 2012, 12:21 PM) *
You are really becoming quite the weasel in the same slippery way that Kali had become by twisting words around until they have no meaning whatsoever.


Kalki, perhaps you should put more of your attention on how and why you called Prisni and my husband Kalisurfer slippery weasels, rather than complaining about how that sentence has come back to haunt you. I rarely come here, but after Kalisurfer told me about not posting on GR anymore and the problems he had with you, despite spending hours writing to you, I had to see for myself what was going on here. All I can say is shame on you for calling people here weasels, so start taking some responsibility for what you say and do to others instead of constantly painting yourself as the victim.

Your text is five lines long, Bhakti. If experience is anything to go by, you will soon get a response at least thirty lines long.
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post Feb 22 2012, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE (Bhakti @ Feb 22 2012, 11:54 PM) *
QUOTE (kalki @ Feb 22 2012, 12:21 PM) *
You are really becoming quite the weasel in the same slippery way that Kali had become by twisting words around until they have no meaning whatsoever.


Kalki, perhaps you should put more of your attention on how and why you called Prisni and my husband Kalisurfer slippery weasels, rather than complaining about how that sentence has come back to haunt you. I rarely come here, but after Kalisurfer told me about not posting on GR anymore and the problems he had with you, despite spending hours writing to you, I had to see for myself what was going on here. All I can say is shame on you for calling people here weasels, so start taking some responsibility for what you say and do to others instead of constantly painting yourself as the victim.


Actually I think the primary concern is how my edited post has come back. It does not haunt me. It should haunt the person who has wrongly brought it forward. First they edit it by adding large font size and and bold and then they delete my comment asking why someone has done that, and then I notice another post of a member which I want to respond to and then I edit it. It is all pretty fair and why we have an edit function. Sometimes we reconsider what we write and we want to edit. This is helpful to all of us including you. However, I was not so much embarrassed by my words, but I notice that I did not want it to be the last word, so I engaged.

If you question the reasons why I even said that, in fact I have never been shy to call out something I don't like, including Kali's posts and Prisni's. Before you judge me, go through the PMs and look at the nasty stuff he wrote to me and how polite I was in writing back and then talk to me about it. Because they both keep dodging my attempts to bring my gripes clearly, thus I conclude it is a bit weaseling and their are constant twisting of my words and sometimes miquoting. Do you agree with these methods? At least I have never demanded that the said people stop talking to me because I am always open to communication. I tried to bow out above but then didn't when I saw a good reason to stay in the dialogue.

I have never claimed myself to be a victim but it is clear to any good reader on the forum that your husband has several times and accuses me directly of pushing him away. This is all to cover for his accusations of me three years ago, which I will gladly tonight or tomorrow publish in a new thread for you and others who are on a rampage to accuse me of any absurd thing under the sky so you can see your own discrepancy or the discrepancy of those you defend. I can almost be sure the aggression toward me is due to those person's cover ups. This place is very much like the GBC all over again. I becoming quite clear on that.


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post Feb 22 2012, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE (Dhyana @ Feb 22 2012, 11:59 PM) *
QUOTE (Bhakti @ Feb 22 2012, 07:09 PM) *
QUOTE (kalki @ Feb 22 2012, 12:21 PM) *
You are really becoming quite the weasel in the same slippery way that Kali had become by twisting words around until they have no meaning whatsoever.


Kalki, perhaps you should put more of your attention on how and why you called Prisni and my husband Kalisurfer slippery weasels, rather than complaining about how that sentence has come back to haunt you. I rarely come here, but after Kalisurfer told me about not posting on GR anymore and the problems he had with you, despite spending hours writing to you, I had to see for myself what was going on here. All I can say is shame on you for calling people here weasels, so start taking some responsibility for what you say and do to others instead of constantly painting yourself as the victim.

Your text is five lines long, Bhakti. If experience is anything to go by, you will soon get a response at least thirty lines long.
Please convey my greetings to Kalisurfer and Kelsey! beerchug.gif


As usual, your snippety remarks for another person's conversation. Have you no shame? Were you a gang member in Iskcon? Anyway, this issue is about the 24 hour edit rule and I guess you don't care that someone is violating the rights of a member to edit their post as that admin is able to vomit them up at will.

The next thing you know, GR will implant a chip in members minds to later publish their thoughts of what they thought they might type but decided not to. Why are you just ignoring the obvious abuse of board control that is happening now? Just because you dislike me is your reason? Because I complained to you in a PM for not speaking out when Kali made wrongful accusations to me about my post which is why I still oppose mods who do unfair things to other members?

It must be for some reason that you are able to contentedly act duplicitously so please why don't you come clean?


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post Feb 22 2012, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE (Dhyana @ Feb 22 2012, 11:59 PM) *
QUOTE (Bhakti @ Feb 22 2012, 07:09 PM) *
QUOTE (kalki @ Feb 22 2012, 12:21 PM) *
You are really becoming quite the weasel in the same slippery way that Kali had become by twisting words around until they have no meaning whatsoever.


Kalki, perhaps you should put more of your attention on how and why you called Prisni and my husband Kalisurfer slippery weasels, rather than complaining about how that sentence has come back to haunt you. I rarely come here, but after Kalisurfer told me about not posting on GR anymore and the problems he had with you, despite spending hours writing to you, I had to see for myself what was going on here. All I can say is shame on you for calling people here weasels, so start taking some responsibility for what you say and do to others instead of constantly painting yourself as the victim.

Your text is five lines long, Bhakti. If experience is anything to go by, you will soon get a response at least thirty lines long.
Please convey my greetings to Kalisurfer and Kelsey! beerchug.gif


Quite ironic Dhyana. If my memory serves me correctly, I have been bombarded by lengthy preachy remarks by especially you and Kali which were more than five times longer than my posting which typically were lengthy descriptions of the history of GR moderation. Should I pull those up for you? If I did it would be a waste of time because you might just ignore them and find a different reason to be snide with me once your first attempt didn't prove valid.


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post Feb 22 2012, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE (Dhyana @ Feb 22 2012, 01:14 PM) *
Your text is five lines long, Bhakti. If experience is anything to go by, you will soon get a response at least thirty lines long.
Please convey my greetings to Kalisurfer and Kelsey! beerchug.gif

Thank you Dhyana, I have sent your greeting their way. I am just amazed as to what has happened to the forum since I last posted anything, I kept hearing about it but had to see it with my own eyes. It seems like one person is intent on controlling the whole forum by creating a sense of chaotic division, us versus them, them against me, hellbent on always being right while being totally incapable of seeing how his own actions contribute to the problems at hand. On the bright side, I was blessed with only 13 lines. happy.gif


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post Feb 22 2012, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE (Bhakti @ Feb 23 2012, 12:47 AM) *
QUOTE (Dhyana @ Feb 22 2012, 01:14 PM) *
Your text is five lines long, Bhakti. If experience is anything to go by, you will soon get a response at least thirty lines long.
Please convey my greetings to Kalisurfer and Kelsey! beerchug.gif

Thank you Dhyana, I have sent your greeting their way. I am just amazed as to what has happened to the forum since I last posted anything, I kept hearing about it but had to see it with my own eyes. It seems like one person is intent on controlling the whole forum by creating a sense of chaotic division, us versus them, them against me, hellbent on always being right while being totally incapable of seeing how his own actions contribute to the problems at hand. On the bright side, I was blessed with only 13 lines. happy.gif


Bhakti, if you actually look over any old posts, this us against them was put forth by Darwin last year, and I personally took it then as his own cute over generalization where he was trying to make a meaningful point. He has been rebutted to the present time mainly by Kali mainly who exaggerates that tongue and cheek remark and further extends it to belief in aliens. I have been included mainly since the whole anti-semitic accusation by Kali when he wanted me to be lumped in with Homer because I was seeing that Homer was being completely bashed rather than mildly disagreed with. I still till this day don't believe in an us against them take over. Can you show me a place where I generalize in such a way other than a joking reference to the original proposed polarization which I always took to be a generalized but pointful remark? I can't buy into these accusations put forth by Kali and now you want to extenuate those claims by tagging them on to my back and so I have to protest them until you produce some factual quotes by me.

Reading through the old threads, both Dhyana and Tapati and Kali have repeatedly warned Darwin to back up his posts/accusations with facts and now when all those people or you bring up accusations, you all do so without any facts. I ask you to do so, but will you do it? Or isn't my denial of such a purpose of seeing things as black and white enough to put you at rest? Is your goal to see that such a view is not taken or is your goal to see that I am dragged through the mud for a false claim?

Please do check through your husbands PMs to me that should show you my clear attitudes and then we will talk. I doubt you have checked them with an unbiased mind and now you want to lash out at me where I actually have no problem with you. You are countering the very mission of peace that Kali constantly purported to have with me. Go ahead and check how many times I asked him not to have a gripe with me and stop accusing me of things I have never had against him. I can't help it if he wants to perpetuate a saga and then tag it on me in order to find a scapegoat. Also compare the amount of lines I use with him and see if he abided by the line rule that you and Dhyana are snickering about. Check out where I asked him to write me less and he reprimanded me.


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post Feb 22 2012, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE (kalki @ Feb 22 2012, 02:21 PM) *
Please do check through your husbands PMs to me that should show you my clear attitudes and then we will talk. I doubt you have checked them with an unbiased mind and now you want to lash out at me where I actually have no problem with you. You are countering the very mission of peace that Kali constantly purported to have with me. Go ahead and check how many times I asked him not to have a gripe with me and stop accusing me of things I have never had against him. I can't help it if he wants to perpetuate a saga and then tag it on me in order to find a scapegoat. Also compare the amount of lines I use with him and see if he abided by the line rule that you and Dhyana are snickering about. Check out where I asked him to write me less and he reprimanded me.

I went and checked with him, and he showed me his PM in and out box. It seems roughly speaking that for every PM he sent you, you sent him 6 or 7 back. I am not going to get involved in the minutia of the situation and do not wish to be dragged any further into a conflict between you two, nor will I be used as a tool to drag him back into something he wishes not to be a part of anymore, but I can tell you he is very unhappy and saddened by how you portray him, while you continue to tell fibs here on the forum concerning what what he has said or done to you in the past.


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post Feb 22 2012, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE (Bhakti @ Feb 23 2012, 01:21 AM) *
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Please do check through your husbands PMs to me that should show you my clear attitudes and then we will talk. I doubt you have checked them with an unbiased mind and now you want to lash out at me where I actually have no problem with you. You are countering the very mission of peace that Kali constantly purported to have with me. Go ahead and check how many times I asked him not to have a gripe with me and stop accusing me of things I have never had against him. I can't help it if he wants to perpetuate a saga and then tag it on me in order to find a scapegoat. Also compare the amount of lines I use with him and see if he abided by the line rule that you and Dhyana are snickering about. Check out where I asked him to write me less and he reprimanded me.

I went and checked with him, and he showed me his PM in and out box. It seems roughly speaking that for every PM he sent you, you sent him 6 or 7 back. I am not going to get involved in the minutia of the situation and do not wish to be dragged any further into a conflict between you two, nor will I be used as a tool to drag him back into something he wishes not to be a part of anymore, but I can tell you he is very unhappy and saddened by how you portray him, while you continue to tell fibs here on the forum concerning what what he has said or done to you in the past.



Sorry Bhakti but I have never told fibs about him here on the forum and if I did, it would do him no harm because he is more well known and respected and apparently supported by other members than I. So while I wish he was not saddened, please also know I am deeply saddened by how he has acted with me and saddened that he refuses to make ammends for the first time he accused me of trolling when I was just responding to someone's query about Global warming. He did not like my Christian link and condemned me for potentially harming homosexuals on the forum and I did nothing of the sort. He does not like being haunted by that past he did and if you see his messages to me, he said it was a thankless task put on him by other mods to be the troll checker. I don't wish to divulge this all but you are doing what he did not want which was talking about the Pms. He also did that before leaving and now I am forced to set it all straight.

Yes I responded with maybe just 2 or three or max 4 or 5 posts not because of too much content, but too many text blocks which multiplied by all his text blocks. So this is more his fault than mine and also merely the limitation of the board functions. It has nothing to do with my writing too many responses. many times my responses were shorter than his but the text block quoting multiplied and that is not my fault. But it was happening because he kept avoiding my first PM to him which was the reply to his first. Instead he started with the third one and began shifting the conversation in other directions.

So your accusations are still foundationless. Check again if you care to know the truth. If you want to post it all here, I don't care. Because Kali dodges what he did wrong and then continues to accuse me of wrongs, I respond accurately with proofs and you and he just continue to bury the past and try to make me look bad. Since a discerning reader will see that I have no ill motivation, I don't care what others might think because they may judge all they want and it harms them in the end.

By they way, please check if Kali really wants you to badger me like this. The sentiment I got overall from him is that he wishes me no harm and he was sorry in general for misjudging me. But he bounced back and called me a troll. I believe he has a good heart and I doubt he would want this to continue the way that you are carrying on. I asked him to keep it all short, to the point and in public, but he refused. I will post for public record the origin of the feud so that you can't yourself continue your or his fibs.


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post Feb 22 2012, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE (Bhakti @ Feb 22 2012, 08:36 PM) *
nor will I be used as a tool to drag him back into something he wishes not to be a part of anymore,

Amen to that FLOWERS.GIF

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but I can tell you he is very unhappy and saddened by how you portray him, while you continue to tell fibs here on the forum concerning what what he has said or done to you in the past.

The forum members have had more than enough material in the public exchanges so far to make up their own minds about both sides of the situation. In other words, it is natural that Kalisurfer feels unhappy but there is really no need to worry anymore about how he is being portrayed. People think what they think. Let them.

"How many lives have been ruined by this need to 'explain,' which usually implies that the explanation be 'understood,' i.e. approved. Let your deeds be judged, and from your deeds your intention, but know that a free person owes an explanation only to himself -- to his reason and his conscience -- and to the few who may have justified claim for an explanation." (Erich Fromm)


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How do we know this is really Bhakti and Kalisurfer has stolen her password?


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QUOTE (babu @ Feb 23 2012, 03:29 AM) *
How do we know this is really Bhakti and Kalisurfer has stolen her password?


I guess you mean that Kali has stolen Bhakti's password? Oh gosh fpalm.gif , more conspiracy assertions. When does it end!

I doubt it because the style of writing is distinct. But anyway as always you are joking and not really serious.

What you do need to worry about though is how many of my posts are really me and how many are my alien double...boo ha ha ha... ufo-1.gif


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post Feb 23 2012, 04:45 AM
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QUOTE (babu @ Feb 22 2012, 04:44 PM) *
How do we know this is really Bhakti and Kalisurfer has stolen her password?


How do we know there isn't one person impersonating everybody? No, this is me. Kalisurfer is watching
John Stewart.

Babu, Kali wants to know who is going to play him in the movie?


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QUOTE (kalki @ Feb 22 2012, 06:31 PM) *
Please do explain why it is okay for you or anyone to tamper with my post and then bring up my deleted content as something to argue against?

No one that I know about is tampering with your posts. Who would possibly have time and interest in doing that?

I receive all the posts through email, and read them in mail email reader. When I want to comment on something, log on to GR and do it. Sometimes I check if the post has been edited, but you write so incredible long posts, that it becomes hard to do that check, so sometimes I just comment on the email post.

It is allright to say something, and then change your mind and edit the text. The problem I felt was that you denied you had ever written that thing. You could have said that you changed your mind, and I think no one would have reacted.

It happens the same to me, that I write something, regret it and then change the text immediately or delete it, so others can see my first draft for a text the same way sometimes. It has happened me a few times on GR that others have commented on my first draft. It is just nothing to do about that when it happens. There have been complaints that threads become hard to read when posts are edited, so the editing interval is restricted to 24 hours.
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QUOTE (Bhakti @ Feb 22 2012, 11:45 PM) *
QUOTE (babu @ Feb 22 2012, 04:44 PM) *
How do we know this is really Bhakti and Kalisurfer has stolen her password?


How do we know there isn't one person impersonating everybody? No, this is me. Kalisurfer is watching
John Stewart.

Babu, Kali wants to know who is going to play him in the movie?


Jacques De Molay will play Kali in the movie.


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QUOTE (babu @ Feb 23 2012, 08:45 AM) *
QUOTE (Bhakti @ Feb 22 2012, 11:45 PM) *
QUOTE (babu @ Feb 22 2012, 04:44 PM) *
How do we know this is really Bhakti and Kalisurfer has stolen her password?


How do we know there isn't one person impersonating everybody? No, this is me. Kalisurfer is watching
John Stewart.

Babu, Kali wants to know who is going to play him in the movie?


Jacques De Molay will play Kali in the movie.

Babu, I can play your character as you can then comprise the role of Bhakti, but that might mean that you then will have to kiss Jacques De Molay as I write write quotes concerning the whole situation on GR, now to only find a monkey to play Kelsey.


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QUOTE (babu @ Feb 23 2012, 02:45 PM) *
QUOTE (Bhakti @ Feb 22 2012, 11:45 PM) *
QUOTE (babu @ Feb 22 2012, 04:44 PM) *
How do we know this is really Bhakti and Kalisurfer has stolen her password?


How do we know there isn't one person impersonating everybody? No, this is me. Kalisurfer is watching
John Stewart.

Babu, Kali wants to know who is going to play him in the movie?


Jacques De Molay will play Kali in the movie.

Ha ha, so we have a Knight Templar playing Kali. Whose role will the policeman be playing?


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QUOTE (Kalisurfer @ Feb 23 2012, 04:31 PM) *
QUOTE (babu @ Feb 23 2012, 08:45 AM) *
QUOTE (Bhakti @ Feb 22 2012, 11:45 PM) *
QUOTE (babu @ Feb 22 2012, 04:44 PM) *
How do we know this is really Bhakti and Kalisurfer has stolen her password?


How do we know there isn't one person impersonating everybody? No, this is me. Kalisurfer is watching
John Stewart.

Babu, Kali wants to know who is going to play him in the movie?


Jacques De Molay will play Kali in the movie.

Babu, I can play your character as you can then comprise the role of Bhakti, but that might mean that you then will have to kiss Jacques De Molay as I write write quotes concerning the whole situation on GR, now to only find a monkey to play Kelsey.


Yes, a monkey for Kelsey with character development and voice overs done by Henry Kissinger.


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