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post Jun 13 2007, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE (zanardi @ Jun 13 2007, 10:33 AM)
QUOTE (ePiTau @ Jun 12 2007, 08:10 PM)
Durga Kanyakumari Gayatri:
kAtyAyAnAya vidmahe kAnyakumAri dhImahi /
tan no durgiH pracodayAt //


One of my favorites, besides the Rudra Gayatris
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The literal translation by Swami Vimalananda, with which I agree:
"May we know Katyayana. For that, may we meditate upon Kanyakumari. May Durgi impel us towards it."

Kanyakumari is a name of Durga or Shakti. It means "Virgin Girl." In one incarnation Durga, as daughter of sage Katyayana, performed austerities to get Shiva as husband. I think she conquered him wholesale. There is a Kanyakumari temple at the south tip of India. Adi Shankara was there and he composed a famous poem in honor of Kanyakumari Devi. That poem is called Saundaryalahari.

I like the mantra mainly because of it's sound, and I think Kanyakumari must have been a sweet girl. The temple is forbidden for non-Hindus. I don't think I ever saw a photo of the deity. There are plenty of posters and Indian paintings of this Devi, but they definitely show no black stone image.

Here a short description of the Kanyakumari temple:
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The temple: The black stone image of Kanyakumari in the sanctum bearing a garland  is an enchanting one. Of particular significance is the glittering nose ring that is visible from a distance. Legend has it that the light emanating from this nose ring misguided arriving ships and caused them to crash onto the rocky coast. There is a door now, to the east of the shrine which is opened only five times a year. There are also shrines to Vijayasundari and Balasundari, friends and playmates of the Goddess in her youthful form. There are a total of 11 theerthams associated with the temple in the ocean surrounding the area. The confluence of the seas, at the southern tip of the subcontinent has been held sacred for centuries.

This text quoted from: http://www.templenet.com/Tamilnadu/kumari.html


Perhaps the Devi idol looks like this?



Both pics taken by Basia Kruszewska,
she tells and interesting story on her blog: http://basia.blog-city.com/are_you_one.htm


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QUOTE (ePiTau @ Jun 13 2007, 03:44 PM)
The literal translation by Swami Vimalananda, with which I agree:
"May we know Katyayana. For that, may we meditate upon Kanyakumari. May Durgi impel us towards it."

Kanyakumari is a name of Durga or Shakti. It means "Virgin Girl." In one incarnation Durga, as daughter of sage Katyayana, performed austerities to get Shiva as husband. I think she conquered him wholesale. There is a Kanyakumari temple at the south tip of India. Adi Shankara was there and he composed a famous poem in honor of Kanyakumari Devi. That poem is called Saundaryalahari.

I like the mantra mainly because of it's sound, and I think Kanyakumari must have been a sweet girl. The temple is forbidden for non-Hindus. I don't think I ever saw a photo of the deity. There are plenty of posters and Indian paintings of this Devi, but they definitely show no black stone image.

Perhaps the Devi idol looks like this?



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In the United States, there is a temple dedicated to Durga Kanyakumari that actually lets in
western people due to their confused notion of spirituality and the strange manner in which men are willing to pay 5 dollars a minute to see and spend time with the “Devil Girl,” which is the name they call her here in the Virginia countryside.

Here is the Americanized version of the Durga Kanyakumari Sutra:

Babaji and the Devil Girl

So you think you've changed my mind
you think my head will hit an aprahad tonight
well there's a deity I can turn to
so grab your pillow and hold on tight
it's going to be a long one okay
I’ve found me a Devil Girl to take me away


I found me an deity and you found
yourself another Babaji
but who's holding heaven and who's
playing around with fire
oh! It's going to be a long night
with passion and desire


So you think I should do whatever you say
you think your words will make me turn away
well there's always two sides to everything
so grab your pillow there, we're heading on
a long night - It's okay to say good night


I found me an devil girl and you found
yourself yet another Babaji
but who's holding heaven and who's
playing around with fire
oh! It's going to be a long night I bet
cause the Devil Girl is makin the Babaji’s wet!


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post Jun 15 2007, 06:00 AM
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QUOTE (Kalisurfer @ Jun 15 2007, 12:41 AM)
Here is the Americanized version of the Durga Kanyakumari Sutra:

Babaji and the Devil Girl
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I like your collage, especially the R. Crumb clips look familiar. Actually, it all looks familiar! First I thought the lyrics were a Zappa rip, but then I found this funny "Angel Boy And Devil Girl" poem on Starlite Café. I think the Babaji version is really hot! thumbs up.gif devil.gif


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Introduction:
Lilith was the first woman, made at the same time, from the same stuff as Adam. So, when Adam refused her equality and forced her to lie under him, Lilith spoke the forbidden name of god and flew from Eden. In mythology she became the Succubus, shown as a winged woman with taloned feet. The stories differ, and I have selected from among them. Sanvi, Sansanvi, Semangelaf are the angels sent by god to bring Lilith back to Adam.

A Hell of a Woman

by Jonelle Maison

You gotta give it to Lilith,
she was a hell of a woman.

Said she'd rather
f**k demons on the beach
than lie under the belly
of that whiner Adam

and flew from paradise.

Told God's angels to
shove it
when they came to get her back,
said

Listen to me now, while you still can.

The original sin was rape
and God has chosen Adam.

From here we begin. This wound
unhealed between man and woman
draws out the world.

I am the first woman. And the last.

My children may be sterile as
raisins,
die each evening with the sun,
but I continue.

You will see me soon, looking
with the eyes of sweet-faced Eve
when Adam breaks another covenant
as easily as teeth break the fruit's skin.

I am always here.
Justice owed
and justice withheld.

I see my place in history:
the forgotten metaphor
living with the beasts in the desert.
You'll try to erase the sound of my
name,
call me Witch.
Queen of Ghosts, Mother
of Terror.

Then you come here, wanting
assurance
that I will not harm Adam's seed,
will not steal from another
woman's cradle.

Go ahead. Write your names over
doorways
if you think it will keep them safe.

Sanvi. Sansanvi, Semangelaf.

The syllables curl and fade,
grow old as children.

And what do you ask of me
after the eight days have set?

I am the Night Hag.

Patient as memory, I wait at the
crossroads,
visit your men in the dark,
they have reason to fear.
I bring them a sleep restful as my
own.

Go back now. I'm through talking.

Tell God for me,
this fight goes on as long as it must.
Let him make Eve, thinking to
undo
this treachery. Let him make laws
declaring the mud's mistake.

In every generation
there is a woman
who belongs to me.




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post Jun 15 2007, 05:41 PM
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Tapati! I've been thinking recently of using this painting (John Collier's) as part of a blog I'm writing - synchronicity?
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post Jun 15 2007, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE (ePiTau @ Jun 15 2007, 02:00 AM)
QUOTE (Kalisurfer @ Jun 15 2007, 12:41 AM)
Here is the Americanized version of the Durga Kanyakumari Sutra:

Babaji and the Devil Girl
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I like your collage, especially the R. Crumb clips look familiar. Actually, it all looks familiar! First I thought the lyrics were a Zappa rip, but then I found this funny "Angel Boy And Devil Girl" poem on Starlite Café. I think the Babaji version is really hot! thumbs up.gif devil.gif
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Thanks ePiTau, whenever I think of the latest hot off the purity press Babaji that takes the spotlight, my mind races to R. Crumbs’ Mr. Natural. Once the effulgence of Mr. Natural clears my consciousness and I happen across the latest pictures of Durga Kanyakumari, well…R. Crumbs Devil Girl could not be too far behind. wink.gif

That is some sleuth connection that you made in connecting my appropriated poem to the Starlite Café and “Angle boy and Devil Girl” poem! Postmodern hybridization merging with apradha in the wet zone…I am now eternally damned…but liberated. phrank2.gif

Now I have to study Tapai’s Lilith-Hell of a Women and consider perhaps converting to this new form that seems mighty worshipable. wub.gif


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QUOTE (Tapati @ Jun 15 2007, 05:26 PM)
A Hell of a Woman

by Jonelle Maison

You gotta give it to Lilith,
she was a hell of a woman.

Said she'd rather
f**k demons on the beach
than lie under the belly
of that whiner Adam

and flew from paradise.

Told God's angels to
shove it
when they came to get her back,
said

Listen to me now, while you still can.

The original sin was rape
and God has chosen Adam.
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Wow, Tapati. This is a hell of a poem! thumbs up.gif stirthepot.gif


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Thank you! I found this poem a long time ago, in the early 90s, and put it in a Word doc back then when it was all in Dos commands. (I had help with this) I've been going through my papers and magazines and finding old quotes (hence the profusion lately) and poems. I am tearing up some of my old feminist and pagan mags for collage material, so expect to see a lot more collages and some serious feminist content. bomb.gif

Aran: Yes, isn't synchronicity wonderful? heart.gif

Lilith has always appealed to me and there are many sites on the web devoted to Her. I love everything about this poem, from the assertion that the original sin was rape to her declaration that: she's rather f**k demons on the beach than lie under the belly of that whiner, Adam."

She was the first woman, and the first woman to say bullsh*t to the patriarchy.


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he said change the channel/i've got problems of my own/i'm so sick of hearing about drugs/and aids/and people without homes/and i said, well,/i'd like to sympathize with that/but if you/don't understand/then how can you act

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More Lilith lore and an online shrine.

Another article about Lilith and the men might be interested in the section on nocturnal emissions.

See also Hecate and other so-called Dark Goddesses.

Other useful links:

Lilith and Dark Goddesses, Kali, and The B**ch From Hell.



O Kali! why dost Thou roam about nude?
Art Thou not ashamed, Mother!
Garb and ornaments Thou hast none;
yet Thou pridest in being King's daughter.
O Mother! is it a virtue of Thy family that
Thou placest Thy feet on Thy Husband?
Thou are nude; Thy Husband is nude;
You both roam cremation grounds.
O Mother! we are all ashamed of you; do put on Thy garb.
Thou hast cast away Thy necklace of jewels, Mother,
and worn a garland of human heads.
Prasada says, "Mother! Thy fierce beauty has
frightened Thy nude Consort."

from
Rama Prasada's Devotional Songs: The Cult of Shakti
by Rama Prasada (1718-75), published in 1966 by Sinha Pub. Calcutta
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Some years ago I wrote a Lingo script (runs in Macromedia Director) that converts mantras (the text that is) into vectorshapes. The shapes are automatically exported to PDF files. I have a collection of gayatris. Here is my image representing the first line of the Durga gayatri. I post here only a low resolution jpeg. The actual image can be any size with brilliant colors, semitransparent layers and very smooth curves.
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QUOTE (ePiTau @ Jun 16 2007, 09:36 AM)
Some years ago I wrote a Lingo script (runs in Macromedia Director) that converts mantras (the text that is) into vectorshapes. The shapes are automatically exported to PDF files. I have a collection of gayatris. Here is my image representing the first line of the Durga gayatri. I post here only a low resolution jpeg. The actual image can be any size with brilliant colors, semitransparent layers and very smooth curves.
kAtyAyAnAya vidmahe


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wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy cool! thanks Prabhuji tongue.gif

is that still considered "transcendental"?
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Beautiful. This image was my inspiration for today. Could you post the others?


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QUOTE (Milla @ Jun 17 2007, 06:54 PM)
Beautiful. This image was my inspiration for today. Could you post the others?
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I did the Brahma-gayatri in 2004. The text was written into my Director application in four separate lines:
1. mahavyahriti: om bhur bhuvah svah
2. first line: tat savitur varenyam
3. second line: bhargo devasya dhimahi
4. third line: dhiyo yo nah paracodayat
Each line becomes a separate vector image. I use one control to move the images vertically apart. Later, in Illustrator, I set the four layers, transparencies, strokes and colors/gradients. The images below show first the four separate lines, each vector shape on a black background, and then the entire gayatri mounted together in one image. I show two variants, the first is called "G-Card," the last is called "Night Sky." As mentioned earlier, these are all low quality jpegs to keep things small for the net. I think such vector graphics look better large size, say A3, A2 or bigger.

oM bhUr bhuvaH svaH


tat savitur vareNyam


bhargo devasya dhImahi


dhiyo yo naH pracodayAt


G-Card


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I've heard that sound waves can be converted into fractal images. If so, that would be interesting!


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I guess it can be done:

http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?sear...waves&forward=1

It would be interesting to see what results from various mantras. (Though I'm sure it would also change by who is chanting them.)


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Wisdom and empowerment are the gifts of the Dark Goddess of Transformation.

She is known to us as Kali, Hecate, Cerridwen, Lilith, Persephone, Fata, Morgana, Ereshkigal, Arianhrod, Durga, Inanna, Tiamat, and by a million, million other names:

Hear me child, and know Me for who I am. I have been with you since you were born, and I will stay with you until you return to Me at the final dusk.

I am the passionate and seductive lover who inspires the poet to dream. I am the One who calls to you at the end of your journey. After the day is done, My children find their blessed rest in my embrace.

I am the womb from which all things are born. I am the shadowy, still tomb; all things must come to Me and bare their breasts to die and be reborn to the Whole.

I am the Sorceress that will not be ruled, the Weaver of Time, the Teacher of Mysteries. I snip the threads that bring my children home to me. I slit the throats of the cruel and drink the blood of the heartless. Swallow your fear and come to me, and you will discover true beauty, strength, and courage.

I am the fury which rips the flesh from injustice. I am the glowing forge that transforms your inner demons into tools of power. Open yourself to my embrace and overcome.

I am the glinting sword that protects you from harm. I am the crucible in which all the aspects of yourself merge together in a rainbow of union.

I am the velvet depths of the night sky, the swirling mists of midnight, shrouded in mystery.

I am the chrysalis in which you will face that which terrifies you and from which you will blossom forth, vibrant and renewed. Seek me at the rossroads, and you shall be transformed, for once you look upon my face, there is no return.

I am the fire that kisses the shackles away. I am the cauldron in which all opposites grow to know each other in Truth. I am the web which connects all things.

I am the Healer of all wounds, the Warrior who rights all wrongs in their Time. I make the weak strong. I make the arrogant humble. I raise up the oppressed and empower the disenfranchised. I am Justice tempered with Mercy.

Most importantly, child, I am you. I am part of you, and I am within you. Seek me within and without, and you will be strong. Know me. Venture into the dark so that you may awaken to Balance, Illumination, and Wholeness.

Take my Love with you everywhere and find the Power within to be who you wish.

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Wow... A feminist never f**ks in the missionary position because it is patriarchal? ohmy.gif


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the ideal tantrik position is seated style (i'll try to find a pic) because it is balanced. I have read elsewhere that a male vamacari should not do it with the woman on top for a similar reason
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QUOTE (Chanahari @ Jun 29 2007, 10:36 AM)
Wow... A feminist never f**ks in the missionary position because it is patriarchal? ohmy.gif
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There is not universal agreement on this. I think Lilith's objection was to the "whiner" Adam and even appearing to be submissive to him. In the context of an equal relationship, I have no problem with the missionary position, or indeed, any position.

Context is everything.


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