Criminals of New Vrndavan and Victims too!, Links to Gallery, many pics here as well |
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Criminals of New Vrndavan and Victims too!, Links to Gallery, many pics here as well |
Feb 4 2007, 10:48 PM
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This member has left Gaudiya Repercussions. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Full Member Posts: 4,534 Joined: 2-March 05 From: Alpine Bhaktivedanta Ashrama N.E. USA Member No.: 13 meta reshaped by LAWYER |
All captions under pictures are from the site, not from me, i don't want to be hacked by these guys.
Sorry if this is not the right place for this. I looked through the different forums, and this seemed to fit the best for me. Although it is not a book, it is a thing to be studied out of interest, i think. New Vrndavan Criminals, Victims, Crazy dudes, Holy Dogs, Bogus Sanyasis, Lawyers for K. etc. etc. QUOTE An extensive collection of historical New Vrindaban photographs have been posted online by Navadvipchandra dasa. This photo archive includes more than 140 pictures of Kirtanananda, murder victims Sulocana dasa and Chakradahari, murderer Tirtha and various individuals involved in criminal activity, judicial and law enforcement personalities involved in the investigations and trials, and various images of life at New Vrindaban under Kirtanananda's rule. ![]() The image above documents the event wherein, while repairing the temple pond, a construction crew accidentally discovered human remains. The FBI came to investigate and found numerous unidentified bodies, one without a head. In this picture, a reporter is asking Kirtanananda about the bodies that had just been discovered. In reply Kirtanananda said, "A dead body is no different than any other dirt. What does it matter what you do with dead bodies. We just put them in the ground in unmarked graves and forget about them." That was his explanation as to why there were unidentified dead bodies under the construction site of Prabhupada's Palace of Gold. ![]() Kirtanananda singing and giving class while holding onto young boys. The boy in the front wants nothing to do with him and wants to get away. Radhanatha Swami couldn't figure out this person was a pedophile? How many people give class while holding onto young boys. ![]() ![]() Kirtanananda Swami and his dog initiate a lady into the sannyasa order. ![]() Police team locates Chakradhari's skull and body remains after being shown the location by Daruka. ![]() The house of chief witness Randall Gorby was blown up the day after Tirtha was arrested. A firefighter tries to extinguish the flames. Randal Gorby was in critical conditioned, but he managed to survive long enough for the first trial. He was later murdered before Kirtanananda's second trial. Just one of the many unsolved murders linked to New Vrindavan. ![]() An old photo of Sulochan Das, who was later murdered by scum of the earth Tirtha Das for a promised payment of $80,000 US Dollars. Tirtha never got paid and is now serving life in prison. ![]() Stunning transformation of scum Tirtha Das to scum Tirtha Swami, prison guru. Umapati Swami rewarded him for the murder of Sulochan by giving him sannyasa in prison. Today he is an ISKCON authorized preacher in ISKCON prison ministries, and has had his own books published by ISKCON. Another case of ISKCON paying off a criminal to keep what he knows secret. |
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Feb 4 2007, 11:36 PM
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![]() We Here Now ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Full Member Posts: 4,277 Joined: 2-March 05 From: Here to Eternity Member No.: 15 Just Me |
Don't say anything that might bruise the creeper of tender devotees who might lose their faith in this living via medium to Krishna.
Mad Elephant offense. What really cracks me up is guys like Devamrita claim they knew nothing of the criminal side of goings on in NV when we knew about it all from several thousand miles away! "Somewhere at the epicentre of Ham's madness was Devamrita. A 'sannyasi' (in the robes of a Franciscan monk), he functioned in an advisory capacity to the group. His presence condoned Ham's perversions. It is not only a fact that he was with the group, but he was a strong supporter of its diabolical leader. Devamrita was seen on international TV ( 'Holy Cow Swami,' ), unshaven and wearing a Friar Tuck cassock, defending his boss... Rotten Hood (Keith Ham). So, the questions are; 1) What was Devamrita doing wearing Friar Tuck's old threads in RottingHam ? 2) Why had he deviated from the teachings of Srila Prabhupada ? 3) How was it, while others were being killed for speaking out against Ham's monstrosities, Devamrita was playing self-appointed Devil's Advocate? 4) Why? 5) How did he find his way back to ISKCON and become an Officer-for Life on its Governing Body Commission ? 6) Don't the GBC know what Devamrita was up to? 7) Haven't the GBC been doing the same nonsense as Devamrita for two and a half decades? 8) Are they birds of a feather ? For a man who claims to have been educated at Princeton University (PU), Devamrita (evidently) is naive, if not dumb. What other explanation could there be for his ignorance where others were aware? Especially, when we take into account his esteemed position within the group. The only other explanation could be: He had an ante in the groups cohesion. But Ham buggered everything, including Devamrita's prospects as future leader of the Friar Tucks / Hare Krsna splinter. When the murder charges moved Ham out, ISKCON (already crowded with its own degenerates) came rushing in. An amnesty was offered and Devamrita (shedding his dual denominational disorder) accepted. Overnight, he re-donned his saffrons, grabbed his trusty staff, and began masquerading like he had never impersonated Friar Tuck ( the Jenny Craig version). Easy as that. Now he is a feverish member of the "Free Tuck" band of merry-men. A satellite of the ISKCON "Good-Bye-Charity" (GBC) program. This brings us to Devamrita's role in writing the "Introduction" for the GBC book: 'Not That I am Poisoned' (NTIP)........It's a hand-lickin ' thank you ' to his masters for taking him back and obliterating his jaunt into the outre. A kind of assurance that he wouldn't go sniffing around again. Now, Devamrita isn't ignoring the truth (like he did as Ham's lieutenant). Now he attacks it (his PU educated teeth bared) whenever his GBC masters give the order. And his masters have shown their approval....he's been made Governing Body Commissioner for South America. However, we at BIF, don't give a fig what pet food ISKCON feeds Devamrita, we'll constipate him if he lifts his tail and spreads his legs in our backyard. And he has, so we will." http://www.harekrsna.org/gurupoison/support/devamrita.htm And he was one of Queertananda's sannyasis! Bow down fools. -------------------- गोली मत चलाना, मैं केवल दूत हूँ
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Feb 5 2007, 12:04 AM
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Feb 5 2007, 12:25 AM
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These are the scariest photos to me:
![]() No explanation needed. ![]() This just bugs me. ![]() What the f*ck? He has horrible teeth. They gross me out. You can't see them to well here but the look on his face is just damn scary. |
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Feb 5 2007, 02:04 AM
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![]() Pundit ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Full Member Posts: 806 Joined: 15-September 06 From: New Zealand Member No.: 436 |
yeah i noticed the teeth too...what a freak.
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Feb 5 2007, 02:09 AM
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![]() Pundit ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Full Member Posts: 806 Joined: 15-September 06 From: New Zealand Member No.: 436 |
ISKCON should sell that horrible place...its just way too creepy. Is that big buddha statue still there?
-------------------- All I want to do is dance and make noise
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Feb 5 2007, 02:50 AM
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Feb 5 2007, 06:51 AM
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Pundit ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Full Member Posts: 595 Joined: 27-March 05 From: victoria b.c. Member No.: 66 |
Last night the televsion program 20/20 showed a heart-wrenching documentary about the religious cult called Children of God, later changed to 'the Family'. The founder, David Berg looked eerily like Keith Ham in his later years. They also share a 'born as a son of a Baptist minister' connection, except David Berg's mother was the reverend. Berg lived Keith Ham's wildest dreams...open sexual exploitation of children as part of the religious doctrine.
Berg's prize experiment, Ricky Rodriguez, aka Davidito, appears 20/20 documentary, via personal videotape before he blew his own head off. http://www.xfamily.org/index.php/Story_of_Davidito |
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Feb 5 2007, 10:06 AM
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Ravindra Svarupa bears an uncanny resemblance to Dumbo, don't you think?
Daruka was my former neighbor in L.A. at 3816 Watseka apartments, the spanish building across Venice from the temple, behind FATE. And of course I watched Chakradhari's son grow up without his father... I knew other NV victims as well. It's all too sad, and too little justice was meted out in earthly courts. I really hope there is a law of karma... -------------------- "We have fallen into the place where everything is music." --Rumi he said change the channel/i've got problems of my own/i'm so sick of hearing about drugs/and aids/and people without homes/and i said, well,/i'd like to sympathize with that/but if you/don't understand/then how can you act --Ani DiFranco My LiveJournal |
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Feb 5 2007, 11:01 AM
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This member has left Gaudiya Repercussions. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Full Member Posts: 4,534 Joined: 2-March 05 From: Alpine Bhaktivedanta Ashrama N.E. USA Member No.: 13 meta reshaped by LAWYER |
QUOTE (Bhaktavasya @ Feb 5 2007, 01:51 AM) Last night the televsion program 20/20 showed a heart-wrenching documentary about the religious cult called Children of God, later changed to 'the Family'. The founder, David Berg looked eerily like Keith Ham in his later years. They also share a 'born as a son of a Baptist minister' connection, except David Berg's mother was the reverend. Berg lived Keith Ham's wildest dreams...open sexual exploitation of children as part of the religious doctrine. Berg's prize experiment, Ricky Rodriguez, aka Davidito, appears 20/20 documentary, via personal videotape before he blew his own head off. http://www.xfamily.org/index.php/Story_of_Davidito Did you visit this threads author's last page of gallery? He seems to have a bit of an agenda against the false gurus, cuz this is on the last page along with others who he seems to lump in with Queertanananda>>>> ![]() Jayatirtha's guru photo for your home altar. What i find funny about this Gallery and the Author's agenda is......... that Iskcon still holds the people who were very much part of New Vrndavan up as the leaders, Malati is a GBC, Radhanatha is a big shot, Ravindra is the GBC spokesman, Devarmrta is a big shot, and many others are connected to that crazed place and time, but still very much ISKCON. How can any part of Iskcon be trusted? How can you allow your kids to be going to their schools above "karmi school"? With people like this in charge and given special status, how is Iskcon not a cult? |
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Feb 5 2007, 11:38 AM
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What's up with the baby bottle? Either he was drinking from it or someone was encouraging their baby to get way too close to him! LOL. I saw him at NY Ratha Yatra....(sans baby bottle).
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Feb 5 2007, 02:29 PM
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![]() Enlightened One ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Full Member Posts: 2,272 Joined: 4-July 05 From: FINLAND Member No.: 111 Future Paul Newman Cup winner |
I noticed also the baby bottle. I also noticed Prabuddhapada. Every temple should have at least two.
-------------------- It is healthy to react in a relevant way to the facts of life.
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Feb 5 2007, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE (zanardi @ Feb 5 2007, 01:29 PM) I noticed also the baby bottle. I also noticed Prabuddhapada. Every temple should have at least two. I know that King Prabhupadabuddha's statue was dynamited at one time by the locals. Anybody knows the details? Who and why blasted the statue? (or should I say "murti" |
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Feb 5 2007, 02:52 PM
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Feb 5 2007, 07:26 PM
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![]() Pundit? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Full Member Posts: 5,503 Joined: 2-March 05 From: Sweden Member No.: 6 Irregular Member |
[quote=metamorphosis,Feb 5 2007, 11:01 AM]
[quote=Bhaktavasya,Feb 5 2007, 01:51 AM] ![]() Jayatirtha's guru photo for your home altar. [/quote] I find this photo touching and sad. I don't know why. Maybe because he looks so young and sincere. Prapuddhapada thing though, that was incredible! Is it really there? Is it as huge as it looks??! -------------------- Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. (Einstein)
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Feb 5 2007, 08:18 PM
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![]() Sage ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Full Member Posts: 1,130 Joined: 2-March 05 Member No.: 7 |
QUOTE Prapuddhapada thing though, that was incredible! Is it really there? Is it as huge as it looks??! I don't know if it is still there, but I have heard that it was huge indeed. Evnetually it was moved somewhere out of sight where it lay/ stood nicely covered in bird droppings, just like any other statue. -------------------- Like a rock in a stream, smiling as it lets anything and everything float over and around it
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Feb 5 2007, 08:27 PM
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![]() Pundit? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Full Member Posts: 5,503 Joined: 2-March 05 From: Sweden Member No.: 6 Irregular Member |
You mean just like Mr. Asutosh Mukherjee at that square in Calcutta, who gets pooped on by the pigeons and who gets a sweep of the municipal broom and a marigold garland once a year for the Independence Day?
That, of all ACBS' attempts at humor, was perhaps one I liked best. -------------------- Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. (Einstein)
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Feb 5 2007, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE (Milla @ Feb 5 2007, 07:18 PM) QUOTE Prapuddhapada thing though, that was incredible! Is it really there? Is it as huge as it looks??! I don't know if it is still there, but I have heard that it was huge indeed. Evnetually it was moved somewhere out of sight where it lay/ stood nicely covered in bird droppings, just like any other statue. I went to NV in 1988 or 89 and by that time it was gone. Not moved but blasted out. |
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Feb 5 2007, 08:32 PM
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![]() Sage ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Full Member Posts: 1,130 Joined: 2-March 05 Member No.: 7 |
QUOTE Last night the televsion program 20/20 showed a heart-wrenching documentary about the religious cult called Children of God, later changed to 'the Family'. I read about this movement a few years ago. It was really scary and I found some consolation comparing my experience to theirs (there are worse things than ISKCON!). I also found somewhere on the internet ""Heaven's Harlots", a book by a former member about her years as a sacred prostitute in the cult. It was fascinating, so many things were familiar: an old, frustrated preacher goes to the hippies in the early sixties and all of a sudden there are crowds bowing down to him; he sends the most enthusiastic to Europe where they became very popular and make a hugely successful LP; they print his teachings and sell them on the street. Gradually, the old man becomes corrupt and more and more crazy (in ISKCON's case see Kirtanananda), most followers still remain oblivious and think nothing of adopting things like prostitution and crime in the service of God.... -------------------- Like a rock in a stream, smiling as it lets anything and everything float over and around it
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Feb 5 2007, 10:23 PM
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![]() gaydiva vaisnava ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Full Member Posts: 5,392 Joined: 3-March 05 Member No.: 32 let's create a new God |
ditto, jayatirtha should not be considered amongst this group... his disciples got lsd and ecstacy and so they at least got a taste of their constitutional position of being god (aham brahmasmi... i am god)
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