garbhadana samskara, who actually did it... Options

[Emma]

my husband i never chanted 50 rounds before trying to concieve any of our children...used to make me feel a bit stink really when people boasted about it to me. Seems like my kids have turned out pretty wonderful so far without the benefit of garbhadana samkara anyway...and the kids whose parents did chant 50 rounds dont seem any more special either.
Another thing about only trying once a month is that it makes it quite hard to conceive unless you are useing an ovulation test...

[zanardi]

After 50 rounds of chanting I would have liked to go to sleep.

[Preyobrazhenya]

In the early days, yes, we chanted all the rounds. Then later they got chanted "after the fact."

I'm afraid to say that my son was not conceived in the most holy of conditions.

Even when the rounds were chanted, what was holy and sacred about feeling rather raped and not given any tenderness or affection? I doubt that God was present in that either.

[Chanahari]

I can't even imagine how can someone even try to beget a child in this way.

I mean, at the day that was proposed by the astrologer, they go to the temple, having the priest do the rituations for them. Then they do their daily services. And then they go home, chant the 50 (!) rounds. And then Prabhuji opens the textbook that says: "Lay down the Mataji on your bed in such and such position, in such and such robes, in the appropiate time, and then... [minute technical descriptions on the method of penetration, etc]".

I once had the luck to read such a Begetting Manual. I couldn't decide whether to cry or laugh. I don't think that I could reach the state that enables begetting children while being surrounded with so many detail.

[Emma]

I didnt even know there was such a thing as a manual...how bizarre!

[Emma]

I guess when we were consciously trying to get pregnant then we did try and make sure the room was looking nice and lit some scented candles and made ourselves beautiful (as much as possible LOL) but that would be all.

[Dhyana]

I guess when we were consciously trying to get pregnant then we did try and make sure the room was looking nice and lit some  scented candles and made ourselves beautiful (as much as possible LOL) but that would be all.

And I am sure this was perfectly enough, dear Emma!

Jyotirmayi (Prabhupada's French disciple) told me in 1995 the following story from a French village community (it may have been New Mayapur). I don't know the date of the events themselves.

She herself had been sent on sankirtan to northern France right after her marriage ceremony. The authorities at the same time saw to it that her husband was sent to the south of France -- so that this senior couple would give the proper example of renunciation to the younger devotees. Yet sometime later when she came visiting, the TP asked her to come to his office. He was hoping to talk her into using her influence to prevail upon the grhasthas who were not up to standard. "We have made such wonderful arrangements for their garbadhana samskara, but instead of using them, they go to the forest and have sex there like animals!"

Jyotirmayi asked about these wonderful arrangement. The TP showed her a key. Couples who wished to beget a child were free to come to his office and get the key, to a special little house on the property, with a bedroom in. The couple chanted their 50 rounds, and when the time was up for the sexual act, the devotees from the community would surround the house and engage in a melodious bhajana, to help the couple maintain proper consciousness.

Wonderful, isn't it?

[Emma]

ugh...

[0Open Mind0]

when the time was up for the sexual act, the devotees from the community would surround the house and engage in a melodious bhajana, to help the couple maintain proper consciousness.

Wonderful, isn't it?

I had a similar experience many years ago. There was a Vaisnava gathering organized by a Gaudiya Math group, hundreds of devotees attended. I lived in a tent with my girlfriend. One morning I woke up at the sounds of mangala arati, mrdangas and karatals. But instead of rushing to the holy ceremony I woke my girlfriend up and we broke the fourth regulative principle while the sacred songs filled the air.

[angrezi]

when the time was up for the sexual act, the devotees from the community would surround the house and engage in a melodious bhajana, to help the couple maintain proper consciousness.

Wonderful, isn't it?

I had a similar experience many years ago. There was a Vaisnava gathering organized by a Gaudiya Math group, hundreds of devotees attended. I lived in a tent with my girlfriend. One morning I woke up at the sounds of mangala arati, mrdangas and karatals. But instead of rushing to the holy ceremony I woke my girlfriend up and we broke the fourth regulative principle while the sacred songs filled the air.

hari bo bo bo boooooooohhhhhhl prabhu!

[babu]

After 50 rounds of chanting I would have liked to go to sleep. 

ditto, i think i would also be sleeping around after 50 rounds

[0dayalu0]

After 50 rounds of chanting I would have liked to go to sleep. 

ditto, i think i would also be sleeping around after 50 rounds

After 50 rounds I was full of energy and it didn't take long for another type of energy to arise, if you know what I mean. We did it for Tara priya 17, and Deva, 15. They are good kids but no different than the others.

[Kalisurfer]

Jyotirmayi asked about these wonderful arrangement. The TP showed her a key. Couples who wished to beget a child were free to come to his office and get the key, to a special little house on the property, with a bedroom in. The couple chanted their 50 rounds, and when the time was up for the sexual act, the devotees from the community would surround the house and engage in a melodious bhajana, to help the couple maintain proper consciousness.

Wonderful, isn't it?

I also heard this story from a French devotee that was similiar, but with the added info that the couple were given a time limit to do the procreation deed and that if they did not come out when thier alloted time was used up, that the devotees doing the bhajans would then thow rocks at the trailor house to remind them it's time to quit! I was also told that the trailor house was full of massive dents!!!

Has anyone else heard this story, not sure if it was fact or fiction, but the devotee seemed pretty straight faced when she told me this?

[babu]

Jyotirmayi asked about these wonderful arrangement. The TP showed her a key. Couples who wished to beget a child were free to come to his office and get the key, to a special little house on the property, with a bedroom in. The couple chanted their 50 rounds, and when the time was up for the sexual act, the devotees from the community would surround the house and engage in a melodious bhajana, to help the couple maintain proper consciousness.

Wonderful, isn't it?

I also heard this story from a French devotee that was similiar, but with the added info that the couple were given a time limit to do the procreation deed and that if they did not come out when thier alloted time was used up, that the devotees doing the bhajans would then thow rocks at the trailor house to remind them it's time to quit! I was also told that the trailor house was full of massive dents!!!

Has anyone else heard this story, not sure if it was fact or fiction, but the devotee seemed pretty straight faced when she told me this?

sounds like there was a big waiting line...

[angrezi]

sounds like group-sex desire to me

[Emma]

I lived with a devotee family for a while because the ashram had burnt down due to the faulty heater supplied to me by the temple...anyway it was janmastami and i went up and knocked on the door of their room to ask if i could borrow a petticoat and when I knocked the door swung open and I saw more of them than i ever wanted to see LOL at the time i was shocked that anyway could contemplate having sex on janmastami and confided in another devotee as to what i should do....!!!!

[jean]

I also heard the story of the caravan in the woods, but I think the devotee told me it was in Italy somewhere.
She said that the devotees would have a kirtan round the caravan while the couple were in the act, so to speak, and if they hadn't come out after 30 mins the TP(sanyassi) would rap the door with his danda and shout to them that time was up.
She says that no children were conceived there and that the couples would find other places to do it.

When I got married to my first husband we chanted 50 rounds every time we tried i.e once a month, and after two years of that and not getting pregnant we gave up the 50 rounds but we still didn't conceive any children, which was a blessing as we had a very dysfunctional relationship and ended up splitting.

[Chanahari]

After 50 rounds I was full of energy and it didn't take long for another type of energy to arise, if you know what I mean.

I never thought of it in this way - the mahamantra' side effect as being a powerful aphrodisiac...

And then, why not?

[babu]

dhyana or milla, can you post something here so i can edit

[Chanahari]

I didnt even know there was such a thing as a manual...how bizarre!

Maybe the abbreviation RTFM comes from ex-ISKCONers who turned geek.