Spell for my uterus, suggestions? |
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Spell for my uterus, suggestions? |
Feb 10 2006, 06:37 AM
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A good friend suggested I create a ritual to bid my uterus farewell. I'm trying to sort through what exactly I want to express and what symbolism would work best. I'm wondering if any other ritual-makers have ideas?
So far I wish to: express thankfulness and appreciation for the work my uterus did in sheltering my babies and the labor of birthing them and say goodbye express my desire that the surgery go well and the result enhance my health and energy express my desire that the surgery also succeed in finding and solving my pelvic pain while keeping my ovaries (at least one) saying good bye to child bearing and rearing and embracing this phase of my life (feel free to add anything I may have overlooked) Ritual actions? (brainstorming) Start with self blessing ritual (after circle casting) Find or create a symbol for my uterus and a way to express the above in action...anoint it? make offerings? ritually burn it or cast into water (ocean or river) when through or bury it. candle magic for successful surgery (to be performed the day of so the candle burns during surgery) Communing with the Goddess, perhaps automatic writing or trancework, to see what plan She has for this phase of my life, the twilight. closing circle, grounding energy --- other ideas? _____ will consider also appropriate herbs and oils to use, the color red seems highly appropriate to me also ______ Timing? on my last menstrual period or on the full moon? Night before surgery? (26th)? ______ Anyone have some input? These are the kinds of things I ponder before doing a larger ritual and I usually do design them myself. I just thought it might be interesting to share this process. -------------------- "We have fallen into the place where everything is music." --Rumi he said change the channel/i've got problems of my own/i'm so sick of hearing about drugs/and aids/and people without homes/and i said, well,/i'd like to sympathize with that/but if you/don't understand/then how can you act --Ani DiFranco My LiveJournal |
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Feb 10 2006, 09:30 AM
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Tapati, I am feeling that your separation from this unneeded (as in already fruitful and fulfilled) part of your body will be a good thing. Your whole body will be relieved.
One suggestion: when my second daughter was born, nearly eighteen years ago, we placed the placenta into a hole in the ground at the foot of a young banana planting. Much to our elderly and long time resident neighbors surprise, the banana tree would give us around 30 to 40 kilos every year. Our body parts are nutritious! We gotta give it all up in the end. Ps. A musician friend of mine, Melissa, jumped to her death at a place called The Gap. A nearly 80 foot vertical rock crevasse that comes to a sharp V where the sea comes pounding in. She was brave. The coroner is not releasing the body, I assume, because they have not determined if anyone had a motive to murder her. This has been weighing on my mind, which makes me open even more freely. -------------------- गोली मत चलाना, मैं केवल दूत हूँ
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Feb 10 2006, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE Ps. A musician friend of mine, Melissa, jumped to her death at a place called The Gap. A nearly 80 foot vertical rock crevasse that comes to a sharp V where the sea comes pounding in. She was brave. The coroner is not releasing the body, I assume, because they have not determined if anyone had a motive to murder her. Oh my Goddess, this just happened?! I am so sorry, what a shock for you and all who love her. Is it possibly an accident? -------------------- "We have fallen into the place where everything is music." --Rumi he said change the channel/i've got problems of my own/i'm so sick of hearing about drugs/and aids/and people without homes/and i said, well,/i'd like to sympathize with that/but if you/don't understand/then how can you act --Ani DiFranco My LiveJournal |
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Feb 10 2006, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE (Tapati @ Feb 10 2006, 05:51 PM) QUOTE Ps. A musician friend of mine, Melissa, jumped to her death at a place called The Gap. A nearly 80 foot vertical rock crevasse that comes to a sharp V where the sea comes pounding in. She was brave. The coroner is not releasing the body, I assume, because they have not determined if anyone had a motive to murder her. Oh my Goddess, this just happened?! I am so sorry, what a shock for you and all who love her. Is it possibly an accident? No, not an accident. It is fenced off and you need to climb over a railing to get to the jump spot. It happened January 31. -------------------- गोली मत चलाना, मैं केवल दूत हूँ
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Feb 10 2006, 04:13 PM
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tapati, in addition to the incantations and other ideas you are coming up with, what i thought of was as folks are cooking and eating placenta to celebrate the new life coming into the world, maybe you could similarly bbq your uterus to celebrate and honor its service and fruitfulness to you and the planet
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Feb 10 2006, 06:24 PM
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You idea about a symbolic burial was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw your thread header. You might also look into some kind of croning ceremony.
I'll make sure to light a candle for you and say a prayer for you on the day of your operation. |
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Feb 10 2006, 07:01 PM
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My mother in law had her uterus removed too. After my wife was born of course. You could honor the moon, astrologically speaking, in the ceremony. Burna white candle and bury or offer it to the ocean on a new moon night- traditionally associated with Devi puja
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Feb 10 2006, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE (babu @ Feb 10 2006, 08:13 AM) tapati, in addition to the incantations and other ideas you are coming up with, what i thought of was as folks are cooking and eating placenta to celebrate the new life coming into the world, maybe you could similarly bbq your uterus to celebrate and honor its service and fruitfulness to you and the planet As nutritious as that may be, I am just not sure I could choke it down. I never did like meat very much and now it actively disgusts me. I think I will have to honor my uterus in effigy. -------------------- "We have fallen into the place where everything is music." --Rumi he said change the channel/i've got problems of my own/i'm so sick of hearing about drugs/and aids/and people without homes/and i said, well,/i'd like to sympathize with that/but if you/don't understand/then how can you act --Ani DiFranco My LiveJournal |
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Feb 10 2006, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE (Preyobrazhenya @ Feb 10 2006, 10:24 AM) You idea about a symbolic burial was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw your thread header. You might also look into some kind of croning ceremony. I'll make sure to light a candle for you and say a prayer for you on the day of your operation. Why thank you, Preyoji. Yes, as I ponder more and more burial comes to mind. As I ponder the springtime season that is getting an early start here, I am thinking maybe bury a symbol in a pot in which I plant a flower or herb. QUOTE Angrezi: You could honor the moon, astrologically speaking, in the ceremony. Burna white candle and bury or offer it to the ocean on a new moon night- traditionally associated with Devi puja. Interestingly, the New Moon is actually the day of the surgery! The 19th hour to be precise, I wish I could do ritual right in the hospital and would feel up to it. But that early morning might work, as I'll want a candle burning during surgery anyway. (I have to arrive at 6 am and surgery begins at 8.) Thanks! -------------------- "We have fallen into the place where everything is music." --Rumi he said change the channel/i've got problems of my own/i'm so sick of hearing about drugs/and aids/and people without homes/and i said, well,/i'd like to sympathize with that/but if you/don't understand/then how can you act --Ani DiFranco My LiveJournal |
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Feb 10 2006, 07:37 PM
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I like the burial idea too.
Since our daughter was born in our home, i buried the placenta under the flowering crab apple, which was 5 feet away from her birth site, now 500 miles away from her present home. |
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Feb 10 2006, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE (Homer @ Feb 10 2006, 02:49 AM) QUOTE (Tapati @ Feb 10 2006, 05:51 PM) QUOTE Ps. A musician friend of mine, Melissa, jumped to her death at a place called The Gap. A nearly 80 foot vertical rock crevasse that comes to a sharp V where the sea comes pounding in. She was brave. The coroner is not releasing the body, I assume, because they have not determined if anyone had a motive to murder her. Oh my Goddess, this just happened?! I am so sorry, what a shock for you and all who love her. Is it possibly an accident? No, not an accident. It is fenced off and you need to climb over a railing to get to the jump spot. It happened January 31. Well, where we live there are some cliffs that are dangerous, and there are also barriers and big signs to that effect. Still I regularly see people go past the barriers and out to the edge because the view is so breathtaking. Could it have possibly been that she was determined to walk along the edge and bypassed the railing to do so, then fell? People do get swept off and die on our cliffs for just that reason. Not that it's any better if she died that way, but I think it would be easier on her loved ones to think it an accident than intentional. Of course if she's been depressed maybe there's reason to suspect something, or if someone was threatening her in some way. I imagine not knowing is very painful and I'm sorry you're all having to deal with a sort of limbo while trying to grieve. Sometimes a sudden death makes the crossing over more difficult (in my belief system, anyway). Would you like for me to light a candle for her crossing, to help smooth the way? -------------------- "We have fallen into the place where everything is music." --Rumi he said change the channel/i've got problems of my own/i'm so sick of hearing about drugs/and aids/and people without homes/and i said, well,/i'd like to sympathize with that/but if you/don't understand/then how can you act --Ani DiFranco My LiveJournal |
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Feb 10 2006, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE (metamorphosis @ Feb 10 2006, 03:37 PM) I buried my wifes/sons placenta in my parents backyard. the rather Earthy midwife suggested I eat it but I told her I was a vegitarian
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Feb 10 2006, 11:34 PM
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You are a kind and wise lady. Meeting you in this electronic fashion has been transforming.
Your offer to light a flame for Melissa's passing is well given. I am positive her spirit would respond to the love. Melissa was a lady who was missing the love of a man. I feel a little troubled when my mind ponders some of my exchanges with her. When we first met, she had been brought here by a mutual friend, we chatted and played music. Somehow the subject of the Islamic practice of polygamy came up. She asked many questions about my late beloved wife and I mentioned there were some of her things in my outbuilding/studio. While there and alone with her, she looked into my face and told me she would be one of my wives if I became a Muslim! I did not reply - but - I did make the huge mistake of telling my new, young wife. I thought she would laugh. My lady became very disturbed and told our mutual friend that introduced us to Melissa what I had revealed.... So, I have the feeling/intuition that my friend told Melissa what my wife had explained to her about my exchange with melissa in my studio. Melissa was giving her guitar lessions weekly. Phew! Feels a little better looking at this on my screen. Sorts out the order in my mindself. Heartself feels a bit pained. I share this as I feel a tad bit implicated in Melissa's woes. My friends who know Melissa tell me she had gone to The Gap the day before to jump, but there were tourists. Then she, supposedly, returned the next day and lept. The puzzle is, how do my friends know this, and if so, why was Melissa left alone? See, I can share with you in your little cozy cyberhome and feel comfortable - even with many ears. Blessed Be! -------------------- गोली मत चलाना, मैं केवल दूत हूँ
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Feb 10 2006, 11:47 PM
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Homer, I wish there were something I could do to help with the pain you must be feeling at Melissa's loss. I guess the best thing is to hold up the hope that we (ususally) get stronger in the broken places.
BTW, I do remember you, from the Nuunanu days, but not from McKinley Street. After you told me your name, I guess a part of my brain worked on it until one day I saw your face. Big smile, big laugh, big sikha. When I saw the picture you recently posted with your baby, it was enough to confirm my memory, and my memories of you are happy ones. Be well. Tapati, I'm sure not qualified to suggest any particular ritual for parting with your uterus, but I think it's a lovely idea. I believe however you do it will be very productive. I wish wellness and happiness for you, too. (I don't know how powerful a wish that could be, coming from a guy who has been floored by the flu for the last four days. ugh!) |
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Feb 11 2006, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE (Babhru @ Feb 11 2006, 07:47 AM) Homer, I wish there were something I could do to help with the pain you must be feeling at Melissa's loss. I guess the best thing is to hold up the hope that we (ususally) get stronger in the broken places. BTW, I do remember you, from the Nuunanu days, but not from McKinley Street. After you told me your name, I guess a part of my brain worked on it until one day I saw your face. Big smile, big laugh, big sikha. When I saw the picture you recently posted with your baby, it was enough to confirm my memory, and my memories of you are happy ones. Be well. Tapati, I'm sure not qualified to suggest any particular ritual for parting with your uterus, but I think it's a lovely idea. I believe however you do it will be very productive. I wish wellness and happiness for you, too. (I don't know how powerful a wish that could be, coming from a guy who has been floored by the flu for the last four days. ugh!) -------------------- गोली मत चलाना, मैं केवल दूत हूँ
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Feb 11 2006, 12:44 AM
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Tapati, here is a simple visualization exercise that comes from the Tibetan Bon medical tradition, (Tibetan shamanistic healing modality) concerning issues pertaining to female reproductive energy. Perhaps this is something you can add into your personal ritual for your upcoming operation.
In this tradition, the energy of the female productive organs are considered very powerful but extremely quiet, existing in the deepest dimension of thought energy. This is the energy that is the answerer of questions and the discoverer of events that can be made to happen from the simple level of thought itself. The Bon visualization exercise is used in dealing with female reproductive illnesses and for developing female consciousness and spirituality while combating negative beliefs and behaviors. Also, within this system, when the womb has been removed from the body, it is considered to always still be present in the form of thought energy. The exercise is to be done for 20-30 minutes at a time, but I can imagine that a person can do it for as long or short as they want and as many times a day that they want. The Exercise: Close your eyes, breathe normally, and let your mind fill your womb. Be there quietly. As you do this, a gentle pink light starts to shine from within your womb and flows throughout your mind and body, and back, gathering itself in the womb. Let this energy keep recycling throughout the body—but have it coming back to the womb as you will be keeping your mental focus on the womb itself. That’s it. The above information is based on the healing methods that come from the Tibetan Bon healing tradition as practiced by Christopher Hansard and the Eden Medical Center based in London, England. www.edenmedicalcentre.com -------------------- "It's not how many times you draw breath that counts in a lifetime, but how many time something takes your breath away."
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Mar 10 2009, 01:45 AM
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In maori culture the placenta is called whenua which means earth. The placenta is buried either at the childs home or at their ancestral/spiritual home or marae.
Then that place is part of the child and will always be a home for them. I asked to look at my kids placentas but didnt keep them...after giving birth Im never interested in doing much and couldnt be bothered digging a hole to bury them and my husband thought the whole idea was gross. -------------------- All I want to do is dance and make noise
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Mar 10 2009, 01:53 AM
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In maori culture the placenta is called whenua which means earth. The placenta is buried either at the childs home or at their ancestral/spiritual home or marae. Then that place is part of the child and will always be a home for them. I asked to look at my kids placentas but didnt keep them...after giving birth Im never interested in doing much and couldnt be bothered digging a hole to bury them and my husband thought the whole idea was gross. Some people use their placenta as a sort of fertilizer and plant a tree or shrub where they bury it. Then there are those who eat it. I couldn't bring myself to do that! -------------------- "We have fallen into the place where everything is music." --Rumi he said change the channel/i've got problems of my own/i'm so sick of hearing about drugs/and aids/and people without homes/and i said, well,/i'd like to sympathize with that/but if you/don't understand/then how can you act --Ani DiFranco My LiveJournal |
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Mar 10 2009, 09:59 AM
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I did bury my daughter's under a flowering cherry tree, outside the window to the room where she was born. Now that place is 500 miles away, but like you said Emma, it is home to her. She made friends with the family who lives there.
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